The Wall of Stupid

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    To think the GOP could've had all those conservative leaning naturalized immigrants if they had toned down the scapegoating. Don't blame immigrants for the GOP's "appeal to the racists strategy"
     
    #261     Nov 30, 2019
  2. dozu888

    dozu888

    omg again.

    the above is so absurd I don't even know where to start... are you truly naive enough to believe that the Dems are allowing these illegals in, only so that they will vote 50/50 left and right; and the Dems are pushing voting age down to 16... sure, these brain washed kids will also vote 50/50.

    scapegoating what? racist what?

    this is why I keep asking the folks on the left to try the red pill for a few days and everything will make sense.... the left is full of conflicts because fundamentally none of their stuff makes sense, so at the end they just sweep everything into 1 pile and call it racism... it's 'my way or the high way'... 'if you don't agree with me you are racist'... end of discussion..

    that's how they keep people on the plantation... which by the way is the perfect analogy of the left... because these elites none of them are 'from the people'... these people are millionaires themselves getting rich from sucking the blood out of their constituents... do what I say not what I do.. the world will end in 12 years but I will buy a multimillion dollar property on the coast line anyway... but for you poor folks I am gonna use my power to make sure you stay poor so you will still vote for me to keep the food stamp going.

    that in a nutshell is the left elite's game plan

    like I said neither side are angels, but in terms of the level of hypocracy, the Dems win that one by a very wide margin.
     
    #262     Nov 30, 2019
  3. dozu888

    dozu888



    the left can't keep any logical debates going beyond 3 rounds.. and Ben summed it up here real good.
     
    #263     Nov 30, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    No, I'm just not enough of an idiot to believe every conspiracy about the Democrats.

    Ben's an idiot and to admire this intellectual lightweight speaks volumes.
     
    #264     Nov 30, 2019
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  5. dozu888

    dozu888

    there you go again... no logic discussion, no substance regarding why certain points are right or wrong.... just sweeping everything into a pile and call it 'idiot'..

    it's funny how you made this post exactly as Ben summarized in the very beginning of the clip how the left argues lol.

    it's ok.... you are 'here4money'.... who cares about politics lol.

    but as I have posted often.... having the correct bias is so important to trading... I just can't see anybody who believe the left propaganda of 'Trump bad' has made any money since the election lol... the left is full of conflicts... the perception of the market is one of them... a big one..
     
    #265     Nov 30, 2019
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Yeah, you seem to enjoy being wrong
     
    #266     Nov 30, 2019
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  7. dozu888

    dozu888

    Hahaha if you are so certain why don’t you vote in my 2020 poll lol. Your bff Tony already did and you re gonna leave him hanging lol
     
    #267     Nov 30, 2019
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    like i said, i'm not interested in bumping dying threads, no matter how much you beg
     
    #268     Nov 30, 2019
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    but we care about corruption they said...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
    Trump border wall $400 million contract handed to company owned by Republican donor who promoted firm on Fox News
    Conservative senator says president liked company due to CEO’s TV appearances


    A construction company owned by a Republican donor has been given a $400m (£308.5m) contract to build sections of Donald Trump’s border wall.

    The Department of Defence has announced Fisher Sand and Gravel Co, from North Dakota, will build new barriers in Arizona following reports that Mr Trump repeatedly pushed for the company to be given the contract, despite concerns from engineering officials.

    Mr Trump had urged officials from the Army Corps of Engineers to pick the company, according to Washington Post reports, and is a fan of the company’s CEO, Tommy Fisher, who has appeared on Fox News to promote the firm.

    However, he was apparently told that Fisher Sand and Gravel’s bid did not meet the standards required for the project.

    The company has also been supported by senator Kevin Cramer, a Republican from North Dakota, who was given $10,000 by the Fisher family for his Senate campaign in 2018.



    Mr Cramer said he was “glad to see more progress being made” on the border wall and “grateful” that Fisher Sand and Gravel had been awarded the contract.

    “I know they will do very well, performing high quality work at a good bargain, all for the security of the people of the United States,” he said in a statement.

    The Republican senator took Mr Fisher as his guest to the 2018 State of the Union address but said he has not pushed Mr Trump to pick the firm, even though he welcomed the idea of a North Dakota company winning the contract.



    Mr Cramer said in May that the president “always brings [the company] up” in conversations and Mr Trump likes Mr Fisher because he has seen him advocating for his firm’s plan on TV.

    Fisher Sand and Gravel has claimed it can build the wall faster and cheaper than other companies.



    It also has a record of more than $1m in fines for environmental and tax violations, according to CNN, and its former co-owner pleaded guilty to tax fraud and was sentenced to 37 months in prison in 2009.

    When asked by CNN about these violations and legal problems, the company said the issues were “resolved years ago” and had “nothing to do with the excellent product and work that Fisher is proposing with regard to protecting America’s southern border”.

    In April, Mr Trump mentioned Mr Fisher on Fox News after the company offered to build 234 miles of the border wall for $1.4bn – a fraction of the $8bn cost projected for the project.

    When Fox News host Sean Hannity asked about the bid, the president replied that his administration was “dealing with him [Mr Fisher]” and said the company was “recommended strongly by a great new senator, Kevin Cramer”.

    Fisher Sand and Gravel has worked with a number of Trump allies, including former adviser Steve Bannon, to build border fences on private land using donations.

    Mr Trump has pledged to build 450 to 500 miles of new border barriers by the end of 2020 but so far his administration has only built about 85 miles of new fencing, which has mostly replaced smaller old structures that existed before he took office in 2017.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/02/politics/fisher-sand-and-gravel-wins-contract/index.html

    Construction company building private wall for group with Trump ties wins government contract

    (CNN)A company touted by White House officials -- and that's already building sections of border wall for a private group with Trump administration ties -- has been awarded $400 million by the government to design and build part of President Donald Trump's border barrier in Yuma County, Arizona.

    The Pentagon on Monday announced that North Dakota company Fisher Sand and Gravel was awarded a contract to "design-build border infrastructure along the southern perimeter of the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge" in Arizona by the end of 2020. The company had previously been approved by the Pentagon as an eligible vendor for wall projects.

    Fisher Sand and Gravel is currently building roughly 3 miles of wall on private land for the private group We Build the Wall, which backs the President's push for erecting a barrier along the southern border. A number of the President's supporters are part of We Build the Wall, including former White House adviser Steve Bannon and former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach.

    The Pentagon announcement is the first government contract to Fisher to build part of the administration-funded border barrier, which has formed a centerpiece of Trump's platform. News of Fisher's contract with the US Army Corps of Engineers was also tweeted on Monday by Brian Kolfage, who runs We Build the Wall.

    While the President has publicly touted Fisher in the past, the company has a history of red flags -- including more than $1 million in fines for environmental and tax violations. A decade ago, a former co-owner of the company pleaded guilty to tax fraud and was sentenced to prison.

    The company also admitted to defrauding the federal government by impeding the IRS
    . The former executive, who's a brother of the current company owner, is no longer associated with Fisher.

    Asked by CNN in May to comment on the company's history of environmental violations and legal issues, the company said in a statement: "The questions you are asking have nothing to do with the excellent product and work that Fisher is proposing with regard to protecting America's southern border. The issues and situations in your email were resolved years ago. None of those matters are outstanding today."

    Fisher, which was founded in North Dakota in 1952, has enjoyed public support from North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer -- who as a congressman invited the company's CEO, Tommy Fisher, to Trump's State of the Union address in 2018.
    News of the company's contract with the Pentagon follows the company push to raise its public profile through lobbying efforts.

    In recent years, Fisher's congressional lobbying expenditures jumped significantly -- from $5,000 in 2017 to $75,000 in 2018, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit that tracks lobbying expenditures.
     
    #269     Dec 4, 2019
  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Where's the corruption? Plenty of companies have tax issues. Regarding the environment ( https://www.fisherind.com/index.php/giving-back/green-technology ), its tough to be in the mining business, asphalt paving business, etc without pissing off the EPA every now and then.

    Looks like a good pick.
    Maga.

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    Company offers to build 234 miles of border wall for $1.4 billion
    by Anna Giaritelli
    | March 05, 2019 12:41 PM

    A U.S. company is offering to build 234 miles of President Trump's border wall for just $1.4 billion, a fraction of the $8 billion the Trump administration is hoping to use for that project.

    Fisher Sand and Gravel Company's President and CEO Tommy Fisher said the government is overpaying and that for $4.31 billion, he can build the wall and incorporate paved roads and border technology plus warranty.

    "Our whole point is to break through the government bureaucracy," Fisher told the Washington Examiner. "If they do the small procurements as they are now … that’s not going to cut it."

    Of the $8 billion Trump is hoping to spend, he already has $1.375 billion of that amount from Congress, which can only be used to build fencing in the Rio Grande Valley. Trump is seeking to repurpose another $3.1 billion in defense funding for more border wall and $3.6 billion more through his emergency declaration that Congress and the courts will challenge.

    Fisher said that the roughly $1.4 billion is enough to build 20 miles of levee wall in the Rio Grande Valley, plus another 214 miles. That pot of money, however, can only be used in the Rio Grande Valley, according to the bill Congress passed approving those funds and was only expected to be used for about 55 miles of steel slat fencing.

    The Army Corps of Engineers is not ready to start looking at how to spend the $8 billion that Trump is hoping to spend on the wall, a representative told the Washington Examiner last week. The corps is considering how to spend money Congress gave DHS last fiscal year and has not requested bids from the private sector because it's still in the procurement process.

    Replacement and new wall projects have struggled to get underway in Trump's first two years in office. Just 35 miles of wall have gone up in that time. The Army Corps of Engineers has procured around 75 miles but has not awarded $900 million for the project of the $1.35 billion that was in the 2018 omnibus.

    DHS officials and several lawmakers are expected to visit the site of his border wall construction site in Arizona next week.
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2019
    #270     Dec 4, 2019