The Wall of Stupid

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Nancy and Chuck are doing a good job not selling out most undocumented immigrants and I think they will continue to do so.So glad they are in charge rather than someone like you.

    With your support of selling out most undocumented immigrants you might consider Trump 2020,just a suggestion.
     
    #151     Jan 8, 2019
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Dems can't afford to pitt dreamers vs non dreamer undocumented immigrants as you would like to do.
     
    #152     Jan 8, 2019
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Except they were ready to "sell out" all those people a year ago for a heftier price.

    clearly you don't know immigrants if you think giving their sons and daughters a shot while they wait their turn is pitting them against each other.
     
    #153     Jan 8, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    brb need a wall when doing great border enforcement
    brb new "wall" less obtrusive

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    #154     Jan 8, 2019
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #155     Jan 8, 2019
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    1.Less urgency and more leverage can change things.Dems are in a better position to get a better deal now then they were a year ago and as long as daca is in the courts there is less urgency.

    2.Clearly you don't know immigrants if you think not including millions of undocumented immigrants with American citizen children born here that they may be separated from is not pitting them against each other.If a deal for just some is done and republicans have their wall the rest,who are the majority, will be put on the back burners much longer.
     
    #156     Jan 8, 2019
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    A lot of undocumented immigrants don't support selling out their own as you do.




    https://www.thedailybeast.com/dream...border-wall-dealeven-one-that-would-save-them

    DREAMers Lobby Against a Trump Border Wall Deal—Even One That Would Save Them

    Recipients of DACA are encouraging lawmakers to reject the main demand the president has made in exchange for their legal protections.

    Sam Stein
    09.05.17 10:55 PM ET



    President Donald Trump’s decision Tuesday to phase out the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals immigration policy opened the door for legislative deal making. And no proposed trade has been more widely discussed than one in which Trump gets funding for his beloved border wall in exchange for permanent legal protections for the so-called DREAMers.

    There are just two major hitches: Democrats aren’t biting and, more significantly, neither are DACA recipients.

    Those recipients, along with immigration reform advocates, have been lobbying lawmakers to reject any deal that would result in a border wall, Capitol Hill aides and activists have told The Daily Beast.

    The DREAMers have done so despite the fact that such an arrangement would directly ensure that their legal status was no longer in limbo after Trump announced he would scrap the program that President Barack Obama began via executive action in 2012. And it’s not just in the halls of Congress where they’re stressing that point.

    “I’m not going to step on top of my community to get ahead,” said Jose Aguiluz, a D.C. native who was brought by his family from Honduras when he was 15 years old and who received his DACA status in 2012.

    Aguiluz, a nurse, was outside the White House on Tuesday to protest Trump’s decision. “By me trying to say, ‘Oh, let’s make a deal with the wall,’ it is like I’m stepping up on my community, my parents, uncles, and grandparents, that I’m putting them down so that I can get ahead,” he said. “That’s unfair and it’s not American.”

    Nearby stood Carlos Arellano, who was brought to the United States by his parents from Mexico when he was 15 and received DACA protection at age 26.

    “DACA changed my life completely,” he said, explaining how the program allowed him to pursue a nursing degree.

    A stethoscope rested on Arellano’s shoulders and a pained look showed on his face. He was nine months away from getting that degree but wouldn’t take a deal that could ensure its usage if that deal involved funding a border wall.

    “DACA shouldn’t be used as a political football,” he said. “They are playing with the future of young, very bright immigrants like myself.”

    The refusal of DACA recipients to sign off on a border-wall exchange raises the stakes around a dramatic, fast-moving attempt to piece together narrowly tailored immigration reform.
     
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    #157     Jan 8, 2019
  8. This is all you need to know about how both Democrats and GOP feel about the excessive money being asked to build a Wall rather than focusing on overall border security:

    After promising voters that Mexico would pay for the border wall, the president has sought $25 billion from Congress to fund the project.


    Despite Republican majorities in both houses of Congress, lawmakers have not approved such funding. In 2017, the president managed to secure about $1.6 billion for border protection projects, but they are primarily for fortifying existing border fencing, not expanding the current wall.

    That appropriation by Congress did not authorize using the money for the border wall prototypes Trump has promoted.
     
    #158     Jan 8, 2019
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    A fund raising lobby proposing poison pill legislation that'll never pass so the donations/pay checks keep coming in "until they get it done.". These groups have latched onto the dream act branding.
     
    #159     Jan 8, 2019
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  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles




    You may want to crop out the photo date next time Donnie. God damn this guy's an idiot
     
    #160     Jan 11, 2019