The Truth about venture Capitalism you wont hear from the far left media.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Epic

    Epic

    There is only one main difference between VC and PE. It seems that almost everyone is missing the distinction between the two. It really has nothing to do with debt and there is a valid reason why debt/leverage is preferable.

    VC firms provide only working capital to a company. While they might have a roll in management of the company, they are usually only interested in providing capital and they trust that the current management is capable of using the capital to grow the business.

    PE firms are interested mainly in obtaining a controlling interest in the company, and many times taking the company private. They are usually of the opinion that it is the management of the company that is lacking, and not the working capital or cash flow. If the product or service is viable, then working capital and cash flow are generally just symptoms of the root problem. The opinion is that their own team has a greater ability to realize the true value of the company, and they recognize that as a result of mismanagement, the company will sell at a discount.

    The only reason that leverage is brought into this at all is that most PE firms require controlling interest in order to execute the plan successfully. They will not be able to make the necessary changes if they only hold a minority stake. They could raise more capital and fund the purchase with internal cash, but that is very capital intensive and the cost of such capital is much higher than loans. Investors in PE groups are looking for 20%+ annually, whereas banks are only looking for 4-10%. It is a no-brainer. They are looking for the cheapest capital that will allow a majority purchase of the company.

    The ironic thing here is that Romney is using his VC deals to tout management experience, when the reality is that PE deals are a much better indicator of management skill. It is also easily argued that PE deals are more valuable to the stability of the market than VC. In general, the only reason a company is accepting venture capital is that they cannot secure working capital through cheaper avenues. IOW, they are generally much less likely to succeed than an equivalent level of debt in a PE deal.
     
    #11     Jan 23, 2012
  2. Epic

    Epic

    I should point out that while I respect the idea of free markets, under the current crony-capitalist manipulated market, I'm of the opinion that a PE firm should not be able to use the assets of the acquired company as collateral against the debt used to purchase it.

    This aspect of the PE arena is the one area that I think rewards excessive risk taking and invites manipulated valuations. If the PE firm has access to enough capital using its own assets as collateral, then so be it.

    OTOH, it could be argued that target company assets and PE firm internal assets are largely fungible. But I still think it offers a certain degree of protection against manipulation of value and pump-&-dump schemes.

    The main point of this argument is that the PE firm should be held liable for excessive risk taking and overloaded debt, and not the target company.
     
    #12     Jan 23, 2012
  3. Some of your libertarian friends do not agree, and have posted as much. They feel that one should be able to say, in public, whites only, at the local gas station.
     
    #13     Jan 23, 2012
  4. You do it every day in your life. You're just too clueless to realize it.
     
    #14     Jan 23, 2012
  5. That joke needs some work if you are going to make the Angry White Man comedy tour, Mav.

    But just so you know, here is klanspeak for you.

    Small government
    States Right
    Constitutionalist

    Those are the big three. Why? Because as tref mentioned on another thread, these so called states right people want to take us backwards in time to place where we were SOCIALLY.

    It amazes me that some people will wrap themselves in the Constitution, and then try to forget that ONLY property owning white men could vote. Slavery was in effect, and any other kind of non-white minority were in fear of their lives.

    Except, they did not forget, they know full well what the agenda is.

    It is the reason why the founder of Stromfront calls Ron Paul their "king". Think that is an accident:D

    Nobody else does either:)
     
    #15     Jan 23, 2012
  6. Can a white person get into the Congressional Black Caucus?
     
    #16     Jan 23, 2012
  7. Can a white person show get on BET?
     
    #17     Jan 23, 2012
  8. What does getting into the CBC have to do with lunchcounters?
     
    #18     Jan 23, 2012
  9. Maybe you ask Viacom, the owners of BET, that question:D
     
    #19     Jan 23, 2012

  10. You are saying owners of private companies, on private property , have the right to discriminate against people of the general public whom they employ?
     
    #20     Jan 23, 2012