the trend is up, market has bottomed.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by lundy, Jun 21, 2002.

  1. I knew I never should have covered yesterdy. I'l never cover another short again.......
     
    #241     Jun 25, 2002
  2. he he, well perma-bears are just as bad as perma-bulls.
     
    #242     Jun 25, 2002
  3. Bono

    Bono

    Don,

    That's life I suppose, or should I say that's the market :) when it goes up Bulls think they're genius, and when it turns around and goes lower, Bears laugh at them ... and vice versa ...

    If there's anything I realized so far it's that :
    1) Lundy needs sunglasses
    2) The DOW outperformed the NDX today
    3) The title of this thread should have been anything other than "the trend is up" ... maybe just "this is the bottom" ...

    simply 'coz as far as a stupid dummy trader is concerned

    up trend = higher peaks + higher troughs

    and since we haven't seen that yet, it makes us all idiots arguying that the sun doesn't come up in the morning ... and the moon at night ...

    Good Trading ... and Good post Don !
     
    #243     Jun 25, 2002
  4. A day trader is not supposed to predict. He is supposed to be robotic. Go with the trend (in order of importance, daily trend then overall trend) wait for pull backs or pops and go with the trend. Daytrading 101 that took me a year to get through my stubborn head.

    The heading of this thread, in my opinion, is very wrong. A trend is not the begining of a movement, its the movement over a period of time. Maybe he meant to say, the market has bottomed and now the market will begin an up trend. But either way, a day trader does not make those predictions. For every one time that prediction works it will go wrong a thousand times. Daytrader, don't predit, be robotic and consistent. You don't have to right 100% of the time (I wish I was right 1 % of the time). 50% right with cutting your losses fast make you a winner in the pocket.

    Funny thing how I had to hear this stuff over and over again for so long until I made it my practice. So now, after losing so many thousands I can start making hundreds.
     
    #244     Jun 25, 2002
  5. Yeah that is the point of trading...predicting...BUT:

    1) All technical indicators on the stocks I trade...SUNW, WCOM, CSCO are SELL...it is rare they ALL point in this direction....check out www.bargraph.com for TA buy/sell signals

    2) Bottom pickers are all either green or bankrupt.....or anal masturbators. Possibly soon to be both in the case of you bulls.

    3) Can you predict political conflict resolution/inflamation? With Ind. Day coming up, one bomb threat in the US will most likely cause a massive gapping down come the following Monday

    So, yeah, in a sense I would say that I am predicting bearish....BUT more importantly I am saying NOT BULLISH!!! Besides, the trend is your friend but you can still take advantage of futures rallies if youre one of us privileged....Day Prop. Traders: :cool:
     
    #245     Jun 25, 2002
  6. Vienna

    Vienna

    You mean unlike yourself in this glorious thread?:D
     
    #246     Jun 25, 2002
  7. everybody does everything. Fundamental long term investors look at charts and claim they don't beleive in technical analysis. Day traders claim they don't care about fundamentals and yet they trade off of earnings reports and fed rate changes.
     
    #247     Jun 25, 2002
  8. Bono

    Bono

    no sorry ... not everybody ... only the ones who have no discipline do that ... and they're the ones who lose money in this market .. and I agree that they're a big majority ... but we can't just generalize ....
     
    #248     Jun 25, 2002
  9. TAguru5

    TAguru5

    Lundy,

    Where in the world are you seeing a "gap up" signal for tomorrow?

     
    #249     Jun 25, 2002
  10. Gaps are not just seen on charts or things like that. Gaps also exist in certain membranes of the cranial cavity that are produced by free air flow between the hearing recpticles of the human species.

    Oh sorry, that was a technical analysis.
     
    #250     Jun 25, 2002