the Tokyo Olympics are turning into a mess

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 8, 2021.

  1. Mercor

    Mercor

    Why wouldn't Kamala ask for it
    It a high level international event with little risk
    She could use a media win these days
     
    #11     Jul 14, 2021
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    I was surprised to see that Japan has made some pretty good progress on vaccinations. In June they were legit 2% fully vaccinated, now almost 18%. Good for them.
     
    #12     Jul 14, 2021

  3. The last month was a humonguous jump but why so far behind other major countries? They are still lagging behind other countries and have not seen why (lack of vaccines... public does not want it..).

    You are insisting on having an Olympics but not on getting vaccines out?
     
    #13     Jul 14, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Typically they do not except for the President or political leader of the host country of the Olympics.
    • Yet, many leaders of competing countries do attend the famous Opening Ceremony.
    In this Covid environment...they should send someone that has been upfront about the Covid situation or send someone that has a strong relationship with the Japanese people...maybe even a former top Japanese American athlete (e.g. Apolo Ohno, Kristi Yamaguchi, Wataru Misaka, Tiffany Chin).

    In past Olympics, there have been U.S. politicians at the Olympic ceremonies but they were associated with someone (relative, child of a friend) that was competing at the Olympics.

    Keep in mind something else...the growing level of protests at the Tokyo Olympic Games...I just can't see the Vice President attending.

    wrbtrader
     
    #14     Jul 14, 2021
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The vaccine hesitancy in Japan is a historical problem similar to the issues in the United States via the government's mistreatment of its citizens (e.g. barbaric disease testing).
    • Most recently, measles, mumps, and rubella inoculation that some suspected of leading to higher rates of aseptic meningitis in the early 1990s. Though no definitive link was established, the shots were discontinued...Japan then quickly developed a problem with measle outbreaks.
    On top of the above, a law was passed in 1992 that the government is legally responsible for caring for its citizens that have adverse reactions from any vaccinations. After the passing of that law...Japan stopped having mandatory vaccination.

    Yet, unlike the United States, vaccine hesitancy is more problematic in Japan than in the United States because the Japanese people have a stronger belief in other types of natural medicine or alternative medicine (preventive and illness treatment).

    Also, Japan has a great healthcare system, unlike the United States. Thus, people in Japan actually believe that their healthcare system can protect them and that they do not need vaccination because they view vaccination as part of the government...not a part of the healthcare system.

    Another issue, Japan has had great success in managing the Pandemic without vaccines prior to the discovery of Covid vaccines but now there are growing worries about the Delta variant...not enough to make the Japanese people think they will no longer continue their successful fight against Covid without vaccination.

    Simply, Japan doesn't have the Covid problems of 2020 like the United States with the number of infections, hospitalizations / ICUs and deaths. They just don't see how vaccination will improve their life considering they're one of the top performing countries against Covid without vaccines.

    wrbtrader
     
    #15     Jul 14, 2021
  6. Could be a whole new category, competition while infected with Covid, but not that fake no symptoms Covid, the real deal at deaths door Covid.
     
    #16     Jul 14, 2021
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #17     Jul 15, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #18     Jul 15, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Tokyo 2020 Olympics: State of emergency bans all spectators, 80% want games postponed as costs skyrocket
    https://www.wral.com/spectators-will-be-barred-at-tokyo-olympics-amid-new-covid-emergency/19763019/

    Olympic organizers said Thursday that they would bar spectators from most events at the games scheduled to open in two weeks, a decision that followed the declaration of a new state of emergency in Tokyo in response to a sudden spike in coronavirus cases.

    Officials have long insisted that they can hold the Tokyo Games safely amid a pandemic. Last month, they announced that they would allow domestic spectators at the events despite public fears that the games could become a petri dish for new variants of the virus.

    Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympics: By the numbers

    A report from WalletHub examined how the pandemic is impacting Tokyo's economy during the Olympics.
    • The estimated cost of hosting the 2020 Tokyo Olympics is $26 billion
    • The estimated economic loss for Japan from barring all spectators, including overseas travelers and domestic visitors, is $15 billion.
    • Officials are spending around $900 million for coronavirus countermeasures during the Olympics.
    • As a result, 80% of people in Japan want the Tokyo Olympics canceled or postponed again as the pandemic rolls on.
    Concern over the Delta variant causing havoc
    Now, the virus has again wreaked havoc on the planning of Olympic organizers, who gathered in an emergency meeting Thursday night to decide how to respond to the latest challenge of a pandemic that had already delayed the games by a year.

    The announcement came only hours before the Olympic torch was set to begin the last — and long-delayed — leg of its trip through Japan. Officials decided this week that there would be almost no actual running during its two-week perambulation through Tokyo and its suburbs, replacing the marathon with a series of ceremonies that would be closed to the public.

    Addressing reporters Thursday night, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga acknowledged the challenge the country faced as the more contagious Delta variant had begun to spread. He warned about the danger of the virus spreading beyond Tokyo as people traveled home for the summer holidays.

    But at the same time, Suga pledged to deliver an Olympic Games that would go down in history not as another victim of the pandemic, but as an example of fortitude in the face of adversity.

    Viewers will be tuning in from around the world, he said, and “I want to transmit to them a message from Tokyo about overcoming hardship with effort and wisdom.”

    The bar for achieving that goal moved even higher Wednesday when Tokyo reported 920 new coronavirus infections, the highest number since May, when the case count briefly rose over 1,000. The state of emergency announced Thursday will start Monday and be in effect for the duration of the Olympics, which begin July 23.

    It is the fourth time that Tokyo has been put under a state of emergency since the beginning of the pandemic. The most recent one began in late April, and most restrictions were lifted by the end of June. Tokyo has since been under a quasi-emergency that was set to be lifted Sunday.

    The impact of COVID-19 on Japan has been relatively mild compared to the effect on the rest of the world — a success that experts attribute to ubiquitous mask wearing, among other things. The death toll, at just over 14,800, is far lower than that of the United States, and Japan has never gone into the kinds of hard lockdowns seen in places like Australia and Singapore.

    But Japan’s vaccine rollout — now at more than 1 million doses a day — got off to a slow start, and the country has struggled with persistent moderate levels of infection.

    Tokyo residents have taken each new state of emergency less seriously. Streets that were empty in June 2020 are now full of people going about their lives almost as normal — at least until evening, when bars and restaurants close early.

    Still, the Japanese public has expressed widespread opposition as the Olympic organizers have proceeded with planning for the games. Recent polls show that a large majority of people support canceling or further delaying the Olympics.

    But with each passing day, the possibility that the games will be stopped becomes increasingly unlikely, regardless of the state of the virus outbreak in Tokyo. In a sign of the event’s inevitability, International Olympic Committee President Thomas Bach arrived in Tokyo on Thursday. He had canceled a previous trip to Japan, scheduled for the spring, after the city entered a new state of emergency.

    Speaking on Thursday night before the Olympic organizers’ meeting, Bach said that the strict measures taken by Japan to prevent athletes and other participants from spreading the virus “have proven to be successful.”

    Moving forward, he said by video from a hotel room where he was quarantining, “we’ll support any measure which is necessary to have a safe and secure Olympic and Paralympic Games for the Japanese people and all the participants.” Officials have been forced to revise their plans on the fly in response to developments in the virus situation. In March, the organizers announced that foreign spectators would be barred. Then, in late June, as virus cases dropped across the country, officials announced that they planned to allow domestic spectators at events, with as many as 10,000 people able to watch competitions held in larger venues.

    Under the plan, event venues would have put in place strict precautions against the spread of the virus and the total number of tickets would have been halved, with a lottery held to determine who could attend. But organizers warned that those plans could change if virus counts increased again.

    With the announcement Thursday, spectators will be barred at all events in Tokyo and its surrounding areas. A few, like the marathon, will be held in locations not affected by the new state of emergency, allowing for the possibility that some fans will be allowed to attend. But organizers announced that spectators would be asked not to cheer the runners on the roads.

    The earlier decision to allow spectators had come under attack from experts concerned about the possibility that the games could become a superspreader event.

    Anxieties have been running high as athletes have begun to pour into Japan from around the world. So far, at least four members of Olympic teams have tested positive for the coronavirus and been quarantined. This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
     
    #19     Jul 15, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    COVID has already swept through hotels some teams are staying at (e.g. Brazil) before the games have even begun. Now it is the Olympic Village. It appears that the winners of this year's Olympic games may be simply determined by which athletes manage to evade getting infected over the next few weeks either via vaccination, precautions, or luck.

    Olympics: First COVID case in athletes' village piles pressure on IOC
    https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/s...village-raising-fears-ahead-games-2021-07-17/
     
    #20     Jul 17, 2021