The thing about edge

Discussion in 'Trading' started by kut2k2, Nov 16, 2013.

  1. And when he does what your post say he should do, he will hold to his winners long and finally realize he is now an investor! He then quits trading and does investing which ultimately leads him to buying an index. All this time to understand and accept the meaning of holding long to a long index.
     
    #11     Nov 16, 2013
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Holding a winner for as long as it's a winner does not make one an investor; it makes one a winning trader. You may eventually understand that.
     
    #12     Nov 16, 2013
  3. Expectation is the right/proper word, technically in mathematics. However, personally I think expectancy (=expectation value) is better.

    http://en.bab.la/dictionary/german-english/erwartungswert
    Erwartungswert
    {m}
    expectancy value

    http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/espérance
    espérance de vie
    nf.
    life expectancy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value

    http://www.amazon.com/Expected-Returns-Investors-Harvesting-Rewards/dp/1119990726

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=174550

     
    #13     Nov 17, 2013
  4. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    You ask questions all day every day, but you're not a consistently profitable trader, are you? (My guess is that you're not a trader at all, but that's just a wild-ass guess.)

    dbPhoenix has active threads that demonstrate very clearly how to trade profitably in a manner that automatically adapts to changing market conditions.

    It just doesn't get any better than that.
     
    #14     Nov 17, 2013
  5. You are very bad at assumptions with me. I do not know why you do not seem to understand that there are people who understand what you think they do not.

    Winner great than (PercentLoss)*StopLoss/(PercentWin).

    Now let pull numbers from the imaginary world:

    Example: 0.6 * 1/0.40 = 1.5

    So I can jump and repeat loud: you see if you let your win only be 1.5 the size of your loser, you go no where in this business! Correct, I agree.

    But if you let it go to $3, then you are winning! Correct, I agree!

    Lose 1, make 3 and if you only win 40% of the time, you are will be successful! Correct, I agree

    End of imaginary talk.

    Is this enough for you to understand that people understand what you think they do not?

    Another one from the imaginary: the key in this is to limit losses and put no cap on rewards? (you can say it in one word: call (option)!)

    What you write is correct in THEORY! People know the theory, they want what works and which is worth their time.

    PS: Run those numbers again, there might be typos in there. The point is that our friend understands that there are people who understand.
     
    #15     Nov 17, 2013
  6. I was in his thread, and they were long Nasdaq100 at 3400. I opined that it was heading to 3300. It did it in that nasty one day sell off. I can repost what I posted there. He knows the story of the parabola/quadratic, and saw the right side of it on that day.

    Do not get me wrong: I like both of you (Nod and DB)!
     
    #16     Nov 17, 2013
  7. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    From what I've seen, db teaches you how to trade. I had no idea he started calling his trades.

    I'm simply shocked that someone who states "Just exit the short when the supply line is broken and take the first long thereafter" bought the NQ at 3400 and never switched to the short side during 6-day move to 3300 (which, for some unknown reason, hasn't yet occurred on my daily chart).

    Wait, I think I know what db did! Although he's teaching day trading using a 1-min chart, when he went long at 3400, just a few ticks from the top (back then), instead of going short when the demand line was broken, he decided instead to utilize the professional trader's method of avoiding losses by allowing a day trade to become a swing trade!

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279904&perpage=10&pagenumber=1


    :D
     
    #17     Nov 17, 2013
  8. BTW, NoD: I was surprised when you posted that you get paid for your time in the market. If someone makes money, it does not mean that the time spend in trading is labor/work.
     
    #18     Nov 17, 2013
  9. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I understand quite well that you don't have the least idea what goes on in the threads I sponsor. Not that I care. I just wish you'd stop pestering the people who are actually working, as opposed to, say, you.
     
    #19     Nov 17, 2013
  10. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I have re-entered the Twilight Zone.
     
    #20     Nov 17, 2013