I'd say there's about a 10% chance that that's true. If it is, please provide citations. In any case, what I said is still the truth. What was required after 9/11 and after every horrific act of murderous violence perpetrated by radical Muslims against innocent civilians was a massive, organized and unequivocal condemnation of the act. This has not occurred and will never occur. I have no idea where in the Qu'ran it's allowed. Why don't you ask some of the clerics who have cleared this type of execution in the past few years. You won't have to look far, it has been reported in every newspaper on earth and has happened several times in the past 18 months. The one we all recall with a mixture of horror and disgust is the case where a young girl was stoned to death by her village because she had committed 'acts inconsistent with chastity' by flirting with a young man. They buried her up to her neck in sand and threw stones at her head until she died. But there was a limit on how big the stones could be because they did not want her to die too fast!! I have no idea. Why don't you ask the clerics who have been agitating for the right to marry post pubescent children to adult men? You won't have to look far for the story, it was plastered across the front pages of every newspaper on earth. There was a long debate here on ET when the headlines hit and a certain member defended the practice of child rape, saying that since it is the custom of these people and 'a part of their culture', it cannot be morally censured by us. This is a matter of fact. I'm not even going to bother to respond if you're trying to deny this; it is well documented. Why don't you go to Pakistan and shout that from a rooftop. Then duck. Of course you aren't. Because the inconvenient facts make it very difficult for you to debate these things. I am on record here asking where the moderate Muslims are, why we hear nothing from them. If you're one of them, fine. That doesn't change the fact that all over the Western world, Muslims are agitating to impose their way of life, their 16th century morals and their sharia law on the rest of us.
A very nice celebration of a religious holiday a few days ago in Russia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_al-Adha http://spb.kp.ru/online/news/577961/
The only rational response is: If they won't police themselves, outlaw Wahhabism . Failing that to solve the problem the only rational response is the outlaw of islam punishable by life in prison or death. no sympathy here
at least you accept that it is the radical Imams preaching such and it is not a part of the common Islamic dogma. Hitler and at first, Himmler, were inspired by Christianity and they had a good run of terror, wouldn't you say. no kidding, and the source of those laws? You keep having to point out Malaysia, that's damning in itself. On the other hand almost every western christian nation is an immigration destination for muslims. Turkey is tolerable only because they embraced secularism. [/QUOTE] again, the immigration has little to do with religion, it is about money or much less frequently, freedom from unjust persecution in their countries, which IS NOT limited to Islamic states (Burma, China, Vietnam, to name a few). and the primary reason i responded to this thread in the first place is because you, and the other bigoted sacks of shit, seemed to be intimating that all muslim countries and all muslims, are shitholes and pieces of shit. it is like you have never been anywhere in the world or even to the parts of your city that have cultural elements that differ from your own and if you have, you go there with the blinders of prejudice that color everything you see as somehow inferior to your way of living. ..and yet the muslims still come here.... because our freedom allows them to make money and practice religion, a gesture that only gets the west in trouble. Sweden's generosity to muslims has been rewarded with rape and other crimes, and it is passed off by muslims as a mere 'cultural difference'. The fact is Imams tell muslims that raping infidels is less serious than raping each other.[/QUOTE] and you make it sound like all Imams preach such as if you know one or even someone that knows one. what do you know of the koran? as muslims likewise emigrate to Europe, Australia, Japan and anywhere else where they can make better money than they did in their home country. following with the history of human migration, it is still usually the poorest, least educated that are leaving their countries so just as with the poorest neighboorhoods in the states, the rates of rape, murder and overall crime is much higher. had this been 80 years ago, you could have been bitching about the italians coming and before that, the irish, citing the problems they brought or crimes they perpetrated in their own countries, "oh, we never had these problems before or show me a good wasp doing this shit." oh, and to Mom0, here is a good hitler Mein Kampf quote, "I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work." no misinterpretation here, I'll take the anti abortion crowd any day over the sharia crowd, any day...and I'm an atheist. Minarets represent a religion and culture I want no part of. [/QUOTE] ok man, fear or curse the minaret if you want, up to you. and piker, you saying you felt threatened in any way in either Malaysia or UAE or that they are not cleaner than almost anywhere in the states? granted, i was in dubai for just a few days but what makes a shithole and maybe it's all semantics, but i usually think of a shithole as like gary or newark (though the latter is much better than it was 20 years ago)
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He just saw a minaret on a new mosque in his neighborhood... <img src=http://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/simpsons-the-scream-4900914.jpg>
Shhhhh! it just flew out of a minaret. <img src="http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/15000/Suicide-Bomber--15424.jpg" />