The Swiss got it right on Islam...finally

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by a_person, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. mahadiga

    mahadiga

    "Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." -- Mark Twain
     
    #111     Dec 2, 2009
  2. Turkish chief EU negotiator calling for all Muslims to withdraw $ from Switzerland, he might have just sealed Turkey's non entry.
     
    #112     Dec 2, 2009
  3. Hi a_person,

    I was in tears when I read the following. My tears were one of laughter...Let me repeat your thread subject, "The Swiss got it right on Islam AND JUDAISM...finally. You reap what you sow my friend, you reap what you sow!

    I always knew that your hate promotion will one day come to haunt you. Enjoy it my friend...I hope the following will teach you a lesson;

    BY Neil Nagraj

    On the heels of a ban on minarets at mosques, one Swiss politician is proposing to extend government intrusion into religious matters beyond the grave.

    In a television interview two days after the passage of the minaret ban, Christophe Darbelly, head of the Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland, called for a ban on separate cemeteries for Muslims and Jews, according to a report on JTA.org.

    Existing cemeteries would not be affected by the ban, Darbelly reportedly said. The Web site reports his plan would, however, prohibit the construction of separate cemeteries in the future.

    The pol also has called for a ban on burkas, according to reports posted in an online Swiss newspaper, JTA.org writes.

    The Swiss ban on minarets at mosques - approved by nearly 60% of Swiss voters - sparked global shock and condemnation, with many saying Switzerland has irreparably harmed its long-held reputation as a bastion of tolerance.

    http://khilafah.com/index.php/news-...itician-seeks-ban-on-jewish-muslim-cemeteries

    And The Swiss got it right on Judaism...finally

    Swiss anti-semitism 'deeply rooted'

    It indicates that 16% of Swiss people are fundamentally anti-semitic, while 60% have anti-semitic sympathies.

    The US and Swiss Jewish organisations behind the survey say it shows the wave of anti-semitism that hit Switzerland in 1998 over the return of dormant bank accounts to Holocaust survivors has not died down.

    Switzerland's two biggest banks agreed to pay Holocaust survivors $1.25bn compensation for wartime losses after prolonged international pressure from Jewish groups.

    "In the main the Swiss are untroubled by Switzerland's conduct toward Jews in the context of the Holocaust," said the New York based American Jewish Committee, which joined with Geneva's Inter-Community Co-ordination against Anti-Semitism and Defamation to commission the survey.

    A majority of those questioned accepted the December 1999 conclusion of a government-appointed panel that Switzerland, which took in nearly 30,000 Jewish refugees during the Holocaust, "turned away refugees who were in danger of being killed".

    But only 35% thought Switzerland took in too few Jews, while 43% said the number accepted was the "right amount."

    The telephone survey was carried out by the Swiss-based GFS polling organisation among 1,210 adults in January.

    Town rejects immigrants

    The survey result followed a Swiss town's rejection of all but eight of 23 applications from foreigners for Swiss citizenship in a procedure which allows applications to be decided by citizens.

    Voters in Emmen near Lucerne were sent photographs of the applicants and other personal details - including taxable income - as a basis on which to make their decision, which took place along with a range of other national and local votes.

    Eight Italians were the only applicants to obtain Swiss citizenship while families from the former Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary and Turkey were rejected.

    It was the second time that Emmen had decided directly on such applications, after the procedure was put forward last year by the Swiss Democrats, a small nationalist party.

    Direct votes on citizenship have been used for some time in other parts of central Switzerland.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/678669.stm

    Yes a_person, The Swiss got it right...finally!

    Regards,

    Sameeh
     
    #113     Dec 5, 2009
  4. mahadiga

    mahadiga

    Global organizations representing humanists, Christians, Jews, Baha'is, Scientologists and even several Muslim groups are lobbying against a United Nations proposal that would provide Islam with worldwide legal protection against criticism.

    And it appears to be working. A preliminary committee vote in the U.N.'s Third Committee today resulted in 81 votes for the protections, 55 against and 43 abstentions, a significant change from the most recent vote.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115910
     
    #114     Dec 5, 2009
  5. #115     Dec 5, 2009
  6. Hi Dragon,

    I as wrote in my previous post, I was in tears from laughter! So now, the Zionist a_person is in the same camp with the people who wants to give it good with Muslims and..............................JEWS!!!

    Oh man, life is good.

    Regards,

    Sameeh
     
    #116     Dec 5, 2009
  7. I think that beneath the quaint veneer of just about all religions is a subversive element that creates yet another distinction between "us" and "them."
     
    #117     Dec 5, 2009
  8. First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me

    -Martin Niemöller
     
    #118     Dec 5, 2009
  9. Dragon you had it ! these words a great and have to be remeber...

    However you have to put this debate on the right point view...

    WE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT RELIGION BUT ON CIVIL RIGHT, SWISS PEOPLE RIGHT TO VOTE !


    Or of the human race... We are the people...

    SMART...

    NOOOO... the only reason is because of insane taxation and the puppetization of the Market. The Market can only reveal is full potential in a state of unleashment...

    And Switzerland trough the practive of direct democracy...

    I am strongly against your point. Because the Nazis were proud of what they were doing. They knew why they were doing their horrors.

    Wrong in Switzerland they aren't right or wrong, for or against. There is only the voice of the People. And when this voice is spoken it become law.


    Without it's endemic poverty Marocco is a great place. Tolerant, close to spain, everything is biofood, corruption cost are very low...

    Sir that's exactly the point, I had this opinion about Switzerland. If I was a muslim I would have read the coran. I would realized that in Europe my children's soul will be at stake. They will be living in the most hazardous environnement for them ever...

    However human don't always follow their heads, but the heart some time...

    That's so right. However hard to maintain as our mind is always playing tricks on our selfves...

    almost the fathers in the world want to watch disney channel with theirs kids... that's all.

    A common goal, different ways...

    Wrong ! we create this form of states and exported it to them to make an economic conquest on their soil...
    Did you realize that all the Hardcore are feeding on the poorest?


    Etymology:

    The term "Samson Option" comes from the biblical story of Samson, who broke the columns supporting the roof of the temple to bring it crashing down on the heads of his enemies. This action is often used as an analogy for an action that brings victory at great cost (see also Pyrrhic Victory).

    Thx for the cultural input.

    That's how I understand it. At the core it's exactly the teaching of Jesus, without all the religious infrastructure and hierarchy. However I think that this great ideal was mutuated to accomodate some kind of political agenda...

    It was true a generation ago...

    wrong it was the most dangerous place...
     
    #119     Dec 6, 2009
  10. Really all the story is to pave the way to the Global Government in form of COP15 or later.

    look,

    the swiss people can do referendum or Initiative. Like 100 000 signs of people and you can vote to impose a law ( like in this case )

    or against a law that you don't like.

    (the only country in the world who is smart enough to impose law on himself ).

    This is called SWITZERLAND. The country of the swiss people. Those who have fights the Alps in old days. Be carefull, they are like Talibans, or all the other people living in the mountain. They are pround of what they are, and what they have achieved over history.

    Trough the practice of direct democracy Switzerland, a small country of 6millions is the 6th or 7th economic parteners of the Usa, WITHOUT any natural ressource! The swiss people were military mercenaries, still keeping the Pope safe, and before all true believer of the free market. However has their law is voted in the way of Ulema ( the community of the Islam believer ) their law is sacred for them.

    Now that you know, could you imagine to impose Global warming tax to swiss people ? Or transaction tax to swiss people ? Or worst global leader ? We aren't part of Europe ( we voted on it ) !!!

    the rule for mercenaries is to be apolitics. One day you fight for one the other days for the other. Don't care, money has no smell.

    So their goal is to distroy direct democracy. To do it they have to put Switzerland under constant pressure ( psy-war ). Banking secret attacks, Libians kidnapping of 2 swiss, French movie maker arrested, All is done to destroy the image of Switzerland.

    The problem, we have raised all the children of all the leaders in the world... And we have done it well, we have treated them well ( they have pay a lot )... but I hope that they will still have sympathy for the country of the White cross... in the middle of the red...
     
    #120     Dec 6, 2009