The Surf Report--part 2

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by marketsurfer, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. You don't sound like a guy letting the market dictate what he should do through price action. If you were focused on price action surely the last few days there might have been something that led you over to the short side, well before 1305. 1305 sounds to me like you're a retail chartist looking at chart points...although I don't personally think 1305 means anything.

    You and others have been unmerciful on surf as the market climbed against his short position. The noise hit a crescendo at the peak. Looks to me like you missed the decline...so I thought I'd make fun of your statement like you did surf...after all it was the closest any of you got to making a statement about the market. Sorry my intent was not clear to you.

    OldTrader
     
    #1431     Jul 27, 2011
  2. EPrado

    EPrado

    How would you know what I am doing? I don't post my trades. Never have. If you read my statement correctly, I was implying I would rather short into a down move.....follow price action...etc. So given the choice of shorting up at 1340 into a big up move, or down at 1305 into a sell off, I would choose the latter. That's all.

    You have me mixed up with others here amigo. I never once said a thing to Surf as far as the position going against him. In fact, I believe as he went on tilt, I was one of the few who said "big deal...trade out of it...move on and you'll be fine". I did give him some crap about quadrupling his position after he claimed it was a bad trade....I think everything I said was fair and very in line.
     
    #1432     Jul 27, 2011
  3. Nice trade. Though I don't know your system, I agree with your outlook based on risk/reward. The risk is for further downside here. You really can't ask for a better setup with a grinding up market last week squeezing out shorts and setting up what seemed like a bulletproof long into a "no brainer" agreement. No brainer stuff is the herd....... . Longs are trapped here and praying. The announcement will be the last chance for longs to sell.


     
    #1433     Jul 27, 2011
  4. EPrado

    EPrado

    The guy makes fun of me as the mkt goes through the level instantly being profitable. But defends a guy like Surf who puts on a position and has it go 30 handles against him. Gotta love this thread. It attracts
    all kinds..................


    Surf.....good luck with this thread.
     
    #1434     Jul 27, 2011

  5. thanks and well stated, Lights. it was soooo classic, I am surprised I was hit with such negativity about the position-- yeah, my timing was early, but i was sized --- at first-- to take the heat-- making up for the early entry--- then went ALL IN when it was screaming short---

    surf
     
    #1435     Jul 27, 2011
  6. thanks, Prado. but please be clear-- the move against me was with 6 contracts--- I nailed the turn with huge size ( relative for me) whatever you think of my trading-- one couldn't ask for better results on this one.

    surf
     
    #1436     Jul 27, 2011
  7. It's all time frame. If one's time frame is a week, then risking 1% to make 3% is reasonable averaging into a full position over time. If one's time frame is 10 minutes like most people here, you need to be more exact which to be honest is virtualy impossible now.

    Jr. risk manager used to tell me years ago that I was always early in my trades and taking heat. Asked me why that is and I told him, better early and involved than late and not involved.

     
    #1437     Jul 27, 2011
  8. the negativity turned out to be valuable sentiment data.

     
    #1438     Jul 27, 2011
  9. Brilliant--- if you observe closely, that is generally the case. as elite is a microcosm of the marketplace. yes, i take it into consideration when trying to project turns. although, sentiment is just a small part of the price driver system
     
    #1439     Jul 27, 2011
  10. Remember what happened to you last time you gloated?.

    This is no time to gloat. It is time to take, at least some, profits. At least with the portion of contracts that you entered too early. It is time to tighten the seatbelt from "Kamikaze reckless" to a safer position.
     
    #1440     Jul 27, 2011