The Surf Report--part 2

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by marketsurfer, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. Why do your 'drivers of price' give you such tough entries? :confused:

     
    #1281     Jul 21, 2011

  2. Market reality is that no can call exact entries with more than random accuracy in timing, however understanding the price drivers can provide a window of time. I didn't enter this trade correctly, it should have been in stages as exact timing is not possible consistently-- every so often one will nail it, but even with the best projection data it remains a window.

    Therefore, position sizing is key to withstand the adverse move prior to profits.


    Surf
     
    #1282     Jul 21, 2011
  3. Surfer:

    What % per year (or per month) are you looking to realistically get out of your "trading" ?.

    What % maximum loss are you prepared to endure to obtain above?

    How many trades, months, years, are you prepared to give it to see it through ?.
     
    #1283     Jul 21, 2011
  4. Again, the use of 'no one' is very definitive. You should try to avoid this type of language when speaking of what is possible in the mkts.

    The mkt generates highly accurate signals everyday, just have to find the right time frame and trade accordingly. Being able to find which frame(s) the mkt is operating on that day is, of course, key but if you can do that then your 'window of time' will shrink substantially.

    Food for thought. :)

     
    #1284     Jul 21, 2011

  5. This rhetoric is classic for system sellers, the deluded, paper traders and others who either have alternative motives or are simply brainwashed by the market mistress. One can get profitable, but it's far from ever being highly accurate. That's obvious based on the evidence

    The evidence simply does not exist to back these claims up. Everything from the very poster above NEVER providing evidence of success-- even as small as a consistent journal-- to the complete dearth of "at home retail traders" ever being listed on the various wealthy or even substantial donor lists. Not to mention the obvious fact that if you had highly accurate signals everyday, why aren't these folks-- even just ONE-- known? There is a reason those who make it on a big scale go into " money management" and not trading.

    Please keep the cheap salesman talk off of the surf report. Your doppelgänger still hasn't provided anything either.

    Surf
     
    #1285     Jul 21, 2011
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Surf, let's say you look at this journal objectively, like it was someone else's.

    After 5 months of trading (any style) wouldn't you expect to see some kind of CONSISTENT results? (good or bad)

    Right now your position not just lost the previous win, but took most of the positive P/L for the whole previous 4 months. Bottomline is, after almost 5 months, the P/L is pretty much back to BREAKEVEN.

    Longer time breakeven result is the definition of random results and random trading. You win some, you lose some, but no consistent positive expectancy. And even if you eventually manage to capture a big move, that will be more LUCK than skill on your behalf.

    So shouldn't this tell you something about your strategy and trading???

    Oh yeah, Simon was right. Posted here 2 days ago:

     
    #1286     Jul 21, 2011
  7. Just trying to be helpful, maybe help you see the mkts from a different perspective. I've got nothing to sell, just a lowly trader :)

    No reason to get all defensive and on the 'attack'. It will be hard for you to graduate from hobby trader to professional if you don't keep an open mind and a humble ego.

    Food for thought. :)

     
    #1287     Jul 21, 2011

  8. It's funny that both you and your doppelgänger consider the questioning of claims to be attacks. The false humility and regurgitated book knowledge isn't helpful in the least while the actual motives are more than evident.

    Show the evidence, your rhetoric is empty and worthlessOR
    Are you afraid that you carefully crafted world of highly accurate calls will come crashing down if you demonstrate in a journal?

    There is no other choice
    Surf
     
    #1288     Jul 21, 2011
  9. When I set out to try my hand at trading in the late 1990's, I didn't ask or need anyone's 'evidence' that the mkt provided tradeable moves. That was very apparent from just looking at the mkt each day. Did I know anything about how to catch those moves back then.....hell no. But I dug deep into the data and tried to learn from each passing day. After a couple years, I had a very good system.

    You should stop with the 'cheap salesman' remarks and try your hand at looking at things from different angles, you may surprise yourself.

    Food for thought. :)

     
    #1289     Jul 21, 2011
  10. Fireplace,

    What books did you read on trading that you are regurgitating from, just curious?
     
    #1290     Jul 21, 2011