Like I said, you are moving the goalposts. My point about Koch was: a) his activities are not pro-jewish. In fact, he sides with Tea party, while majority of jews vote for democrates. b) in 2013 (the report I used) he actually donated money for a hospital If you don't like Koch, you can focus on other 10 individuals in the list. Clearly, usage of word "statistically" implies there are reports out there. You have also made false claims, such as Jews in the US having lower than average IQ, while in fact it's higher than average.
there are reports out there but not the ones you cited (at least not that I know). Dude, you can't say I move goal posts when I made a clear statement and you change the topic. I said a majority of the wealthiest Jews do not really give and donate to selfless causes (I phased it slightly differently but I make it clearer now for sake of precision). Heck, you think I am not aware of hundreds of millions - billions in aggregate that many Jews donate to political campaigns and other causes that in turn benefit them? My big picture point is that those who are in most need among us and receive donations or support through charitable foundations are under-financed by the Jewish wealthy community while they proportionally receive a lot more from non Jews. That was my whole argument. And I never said Jews on average have a lower IQ. Damn it, here we are again, when arguments run out do you really have to resort to lies and twisting words of others?
That's exactly what moving goalposts is. You make a claim that Jews do not donate outside their community. When proven wrong, you blame it on miscommunication, poor wording, my inability to read and listen, and being misunderstood. Suddenly your original point becomes "Jews donate to political campaigns and other causes that in turn benefit them, but not to charitable foundations". You have chosen to ignore my sample of 11, fine, but give me your report now then. Your theory is worth nothing if you have no evidence to back it up. It's ironical how you call facts statistical despite not having a single data point. I understand that with verbal diarrhea diagnosis it's difficult to remember everything you said, but I cited what you said word by word. Let me do it again, inb4 picking up on difference between "lower" and "not higher"
you cited me? In the same way than Martinghoul did? Ok, show me where I wrote that "Jews on average have a lower IQ" and I agree that you cited me correctly and happily deliver the link the the statistic I was referring to, because you accused me of saying, I cite " You have also made false claims, such as Jews in the US having lower than average IQ, while in fact it's higher than average."
It seems that you're having a similar conversation w/ eurokopek, volpunter... Not to derail that, but are you intending to respond to my latest post (before this one)? Or are you unable/unwilling to provide the statistics and the evidence that you have claimed you possess? This is the last time I will ask...
Yes, you said that in post #109 of this thread. The original comment is: Specifically, in point d) of this post you said, Of course, you can nitpick on difference between "lower" and "not higher", and argue that your point was that Jews have IQ level equal to other groups, but not lower or higher than other groups, but I could equally argue that my definition of "others" can be interpreted as comparison with any other racial/ethnic group, in which case it would mean that Jews not having IQ higher than the lowest group with lowest IQ in the US is tantamount to lower IQ than average, since the lowest group is likely to be sub 95, below the average of around 100. I will also remind that, Deliver it. Deliver everything on b), c) and d).
The problem with this thread is some people are showing paranoia and are trying to trap volpunter so that they can accuse him of being antisemite. Don't inflict misery on others if a good psy can sort out your problem.
my quote: "Jews on average do not possess a higher IQ than others)" your quote: "Jews on average have a lower IQ" -> Yes, you are stupid and you are the next on ignore. Maybe you want to learn to read carefully and more importantly to deduce the correct conclusions from what you read. Goodness, is the intellect on this website on average really THIS low?
they are not paranoid at all and why should they be? Those in politics and media with a very strong motivation to portray Jews as mere victims of every crime there is and as the benevolent of society really do not have to work hard, given the average level of education and intellect among us.