The student is ready

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 2_bits, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    tried to download your writing, but couldn't. Anyway, two things. One is learn how to trade a breakout/ retracement. I'm assuming that's not something you've done much. That's OK, and you may decide it's not for you. I'm just guessing here, so if I'm wrong_say so. The other is simplify and let the best setups work. They can't all be above average. Sometimes the markets are just not understand able, and its OK to just say so. Bottom line is to be able to participate in a trend and take a piece out of it. If that means buying high or selling low, so be it.
     
    #131     Feb 21, 2016
  2. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    OK I looked at it. My first impression would be to always ask --what is happening now?_Is it up, down, or sideways. The past is good to look at but maybe not so useful if you have to make a trade. You can always go back and find that a particular market is going up and down at the same time, depending upon timeframe. But we trade in the now. I think you should be able to say who is in control at the present time, up to a certain level. If you cannot, then don't trade, IMO.
     
    #132     Feb 21, 2016
  3. 2_bits

    2_bits

    Thanks for your advice Cswim. I'm sorry you weren't able to download the attachment; it's just a framework I laid out to help me better understand the type of market environments I'm trading. It's a PDF file as I was unable to post a Word document.

    You are right also that often the market is hard to understand, especially within trading ranges. My main setup right now is a retracement in a strong trend typically involving the 40 period EMA in some way. Sometimes I get fancy and drop down a timeframe and try to enter early. This is what I'm calling a reversal. I never really trade true reversals by bottom or top picking the overall trend as that lost me lots of $$$ when I first started trading. I will work on better learning how to trade breakouts and retracements.
     
    #133     Feb 21, 2016
  4. 2_bits

    2_bits

    Makes sense. Thanks again.
     
    #134     Feb 21, 2016
  5. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    The problem with analysing the markets is that usually by the time you nail something down its already in the process of changing. The trick is to be able to spot the change as its happening. Then you can make a bet--will it continue or revert back?
     
    #135     Feb 21, 2016
  6. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    As discretionary traders, I feel like,we are just gathering evidence most of the time, and trying to suspend judgement.
     
    #136     Feb 21, 2016
  7. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    A trader I follow said something like, "We are like surfers. We are not trying to catch every wave. Just the nice big ones that we can handle"
     
    #137     Feb 21, 2016
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  8. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    Aussie and Loonie strong again tonight vs USD. Peace, out. . .
     
    #138     Feb 21, 2016
  9. Handle123

    Handle123

    I checked out the 40 EMA, and while it is good and does offer more opportunities for entry, I use Bollinger 18, 1.8, as a filter, then drop down to either 2/5 minute barchart looking for fine tuning my entry. I find using the BB requires a deeper retracement than 40 EMA, I want less addional trades that might fulfill higher chance of being profitable cause I am staying in much longer, lots of rollovers, and also doing much more counter-trend credit spreads when anticipating short term movements. No matter if I am putting my original entry or add-ons, all get hedged cause in last few months I have gone to stop and reverse when price gets into 9 year zones of being at or near extremes, I usually get in 1-7 add-on trades and not all of those work out but usually the worst are very small losses. I prefer using the BB cause that is normally when many call that as change of trend, so it suckers in more of the newbies.

    Heating Oil and all the energies, I was either already long or Nat Gas got long Friday as all are close or beyond nine year lows.
     
    #139     Feb 22, 2016
  10. 2_bits

    2_bits

    Agreed. Those trades that I did well on over the past five year
    A lot of traders use Bollinger Bands. I studied them in the past – even read John’s original book. Not sure why I stopped using them, but you can clearly see that they provide a lot of valuable information: dynamic S/R, trend, price compression, etc. I’ll have to take a closer look this weekend when I have more free time.

    Regarding fossil fuels I agree that their downtrends appear to be overdue for a bounce at a minimum. One of the other techniques I studied extensively and subsequently gave up on was Elliott Wave analysis. For natural gas in particular, I was sure that last year’s low was the bottom of a 10 year “wave 3” on the continuous adjusted contract and that recent impulsive move up from the December lows to the beginning of January was the first minor leg up of the larger “wave 4”. However I don’t have the cojones anymore to trade true reversals like this without more confirmation as I gotten slaughtered in the past too many times trying to time them. A reasonable target for “wave” 4 should be the white line in the attached chart. I hope you’ve caught the bottom!
     
    #140     Feb 22, 2016