The stricter the gun laws, the safer the children

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yeah, it's called reality. Liberals always hate that - not surprised you're so adverse.
     
    #71     Jul 22, 2019
  2. You actually think all guns are made in the US? Some of the best guns are made in the Philippines, Turkey, Russia, China, Croatia, etc, all places not known for strict export controls.

    The main "guns go south" operation was the Obama/Holder effort, "Fast and Furious", to coerce gun shops in the southwest to sell guns illegally to cartel members. Their hope was that they could then trace them to crimes and use it as a justification for gun confiscation, etc. They had the media all on board to maker a big deal out of it, but it blew up in their faces when a Border Patrol agent was killed with one of the guns they provided to the cartel. That's what led to Holder stonewalling congress and being held in contempt.
     
    #72     Jul 22, 2019
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    Your reality is bullshit. Less guns means less deaths and stricter laws means less childhood deaths.

    The only reason we suffer as a country from extreme amounts of gun deaths is because of people like you.
     
    #73     Jul 22, 2019
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  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    Fast and furious was a bad operation, no doubt. Just understand there’s dozens of operations you’ll never know about that are just as risky conducted in the name of safety and security.
     
    #74     Jul 22, 2019
  5. I sincerely doubt any are as criminal as that one. If so, the people running them should be fired and prosecuted. Obama and Holder politicized law enforcement to try to push their radical gun confiscation agenda. The media were willing co-conspirators.
     
    #75     Jul 22, 2019
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    It was started by Bush.Just sayin
     
    #76     Jul 22, 2019
  7. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    What in the hell are you talking about? Regardless of your completely made up BS, gangs in inner cities do have fully auto weapons. You are just illustrating your complete and total ignorance on the subject. You can easily turn any AK or AR into fully auto. A little metal and some machine work and bam fully auto. Easily and very cheaply. There are tons of mac 9s/10s and uzis that are fully auto. They are plentiful and easy to buy if someone wanted to. Where I live, if I wanted to, I could purchase a fully auto gun within 3 hours just like a could buy an eight ball.

    Just for your edification, fully auto guns in general suck. They jam a lot, accuracy goes down tremendously, and you run out of bullets really quickly. Yes, I have shot them numerous times. Yes, it was completely legal when I did.

    You act like it takes a rocket scientist to produce a gun. You don't need a team of PHDs to make a gun. If there is a demand and no supply for guns, the mexican cartels will fill the demand. It is a complete and total logical fallacy to think that the US can outlaw guns and not have super tight borders.

    This is an example that guns laws will not work with porous borders. They are making ghost 1911s in wooden shacks in Philippines and shipping them to the US. That is already illegal. How do these guns get into the US? I mean it is illegal so how does it happen?

     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
    #77     Jul 22, 2019
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  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    this is fake news according to tsing
     
    #78     Jul 22, 2019
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Okay, if you totally outlaw guns in the US, the Mexican cartels or someone making them in their garage will supply them.
     
    #79     Jul 22, 2019
  10. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    That is because the profit margin for drugs is much higher than guns.
     
    #80     Jul 22, 2019