The stricter the gun laws, the safer the children

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    https://accident-law.freeadvice.com...en-and-involved-in-a-hit-and-run-accident.htm
    If the car was stolen, you are not liable for any accidents the criminal got into, since you were not "at fault." The criminal/driver did not have your permission to drive the car, so you are not responsible for what he/she did. That doesn't mean the other side may not try to sue you, but if you can prove theft, you'd have a good defense.

    You can be sued for anything, but you aren't at fault from a legal standpoint if someone steals your car and causes an accident.
     
    #121     Jul 23, 2019
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    It absolutely addresses the only thing you care about, gang related murders, as well as other murders, suicides and accidental deaths with guns.

    These regulations reduce the number of illegal guns on the streets along with preventing people who should not own a gun from getting a gun.

    You choose to ignore the positive effects of mild regulation, such as reduced child deaths, and argue that a background check is somehow a gun grab that goes after law abiding people.

    It’s completely absurd.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2019
    #122     Jul 23, 2019
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    Ahh, but can gun manufacturers be sued for anything? Anything at all?
     
    #123     Jul 23, 2019
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    This is wrong. This thread started with a study that showed mild regulation like background checks and id requirements reduced child deaths up to 35% over a five year period.

    Mind you, other studies have shown similar findings with the broader population.
     
    #124     Jul 23, 2019
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    This is wrong. The study showed the opposite. Read it.
     
    #125     Jul 23, 2019
  6. The results of the study seem likely to have been the product of unsupportable adjustments made for various unexplained factors. How else could Chiraq, with its astounding homicide rate, be held up as a model?
     
    #126     Jul 23, 2019
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    The results seem nothing like what you say.
     
    #127     Jul 23, 2019
  8. I think if you are not mature enough to buy beer legally, you shouldn't be able to own a gun.

    I personally think we need a system similar to what we have for a driver license for firearm ownership. a national registry system.
    1. a complete background check (including mental health) for any type of purchase commercial or private. plus mandatory firearm safety training.
    2. annual firearm reregistration. (simple online check)
    3. renewal of your background check every 5 years. (including mental health) plus mandatory firearm safety training.
    4. Minimum age to legally purchase a firearm should be at least 21.
    5. anyone with more than 5 handgun/shotgun or any weapon classified as an Assault Rifle requires an annual background check. (including mental health)
    6. much more stringent CCW requirement. similar to what is required in LA and NY and not what we have in FL.
    7. tiered level penalty system.
     
    #128     Jul 23, 2019
  9. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    No, federal law prevents this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act
    The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a United States law which protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products.

    You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the study says anything about reducing gun deaths. It says that adolescent gun deaths were 35% lower in states with the most stringent gun laws in comparison to the rest of the country. It would be interesting to see what the adolescent gun death rates were in those specific states prior to the implementation of these laws. That would give us a better idea of how effective these laws actually were.
     
    #129     Jul 23, 2019
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Men are just more effective at killing themselves, but I don't think being suicidal makes you any less lazy (driving to a high place), or less prone to avoiding pain (tying a noose)
     
    #130     Jul 23, 2019