The Stochastic Indicator

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by jack hershey, Feb 17, 2003.

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  1. vorzo

    vorzo

    Here is dawg's chart - I was looking at it too.

    Jack, any comments on the chart window scaling?
     
    #501     Mar 27, 2003
  2. dawg

    dawg

    1. short rocket

    mkt opens with a gap down and stochs and macd are giving short signals...wait 15 minutes, amrk the low and short on the break. at 10:10 there is a 5m macd xo, but i was looking for a new pt 3 so i gave it some room. Up volume started to increase and i exited at 860.25 during the 10:25 bar.

    short @ 859.50
    cover @ 860.25 -0.75

    day: -0.75 8 days: +20.50

    2. long rocket

    11:10 s(90.48, 79.18) macd hist +0.61 high 862.00

    hod was 862.50 so i waited until that was broken and entered at 862.75. You get a high volume reversal bar, stochs leave zone and macd begins to pretzel. Stoch move to 50 area and volume dropped significantly. Exited at 861.00. Wash exit was possible if you held longer. Trade felt more like an iceberg, but out of my league.

    long @ 862.75
    sell @ 861.00 -1.75

    day: -2.50 8 days: 18.75

    took a break until after 1:00. And then around 2:15 cable in three counites goes out and my day was done.

    overall market has been crappy for rockets last two days, today was suited more for intermediate level trends. we'll go get 'em friday.
     
    #502     Mar 27, 2003
  3. colina

    colina

    Looking at 03/27 ES mini, I see now what must have been obvious to everyone else in hindight. Unfortunately I am married to the 1 minute chart (lol). A habit I am trying to break.

    Last tradings days' end of day effects created a rocket (oversold) at close. Carry over to todays' gap down opening, of which the break out or the continuation of yesterdays' rocket failed. What followed was a potential iceberg going long. On the 5 minute chart peaks of the iceberg occured approximately at 11:15, 13:00, 14:25 - ish. During this interim the stoc (14,1,3) remained above the 50 % mark. Neat.

    This also converts to a rocket on the 15 min chart ? (Too bold a move for me).

    Would I have used the trough of the stoc(5,2,3) on the 5 minute as an exit point on the failed break out ?

    Would I have used the stoc (5,2,3) on the 5 minute as an entry signal for the "long" ?

    Would I have used the stoc(14,1,3) on the 5 minute, crossing under the 50% mark as an exit signal for the iceberg ? Or would I exit when the stoc(14,1,3) on the 15 minute chart falls back into the tape region ?

    What would be best ?
     
    #503     Mar 28, 2003
  4. Jack,

    As requested, here's my chart from 3-26. I see that volume was very low at 13:35 and 13:40 like Dawg said.

    Thanks to Jack and Dawg
     
    #504     Mar 28, 2003
  5. vorzo

    vorzo

    ES03M simulated

    Long 863.75 10:25
    after MACD crossed up, stochs crossed up and hist >+0.4
    Sell 863.00 10:37
    fast line had crossed above 80, but pulled below, slow line below 50 and low broken on 1min chart.
    -0.75

    Then a rocket set up on the next bar, with both lines above 80 and MACD>+0.4.

    Long 864.00 10:39
    Sell 866.25 10:56
    +2.25
    as volume dried up un the 2nd 5 min bar after volume spike, it barely made 5k so I got out at the away side of first channel. Although both lines were still above 80.
    A second, faster channel was set up but I noticed it after closing the trade. Volume dried up so I decided to wrap up.

    Day +1.50
    Week:
    ES +3.25
    NQ 0.0

    At 11:15 the volume picked up and the rocket was still there (fast line left went below 75 then snapped back in). I guess I overplayed the low volume bar and bailed out too early. I hope others stayed in longer.
     
    #505     Mar 28, 2003
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    #506     Mar 28, 2003
  7. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    congrat on your trade look like Jack trade.
     
    #507     Mar 28, 2003
  8. update
     
    #508     Mar 28, 2003
  9. It's Friday. Learn about Friday's and Monday's. I have arranged them in order for us this week and next.

    There might not be a pm BO is my point.


    I hope everyone is "seein" what entined means.

    The part you are not trading in trades one and two we pick up later. Slalom people look at how to transition during this lateral. That sym pennant in trade two set the Resistance. The bottom of trade one set the support.

    we are going to go through 8 levels of getting this in a pristine shape. Each one will double your ROI performance.
     
    #509     Mar 28, 2003
  10. dawg

    dawg

    1. 10:45 s(88.00, 85.39) macd hist +0.567

    i entered during this bar @ 865.00 when the mkt broke the HOD. 11:30 had a 5m macd xo, but was still within my channel, but at 11:45 another xo and breaks channel. exit 867.25

    long @ 865.00
    sell @ 867.25

    day: +2.25 9 days: +21.00

    2. 12:05 s(0.00, 7.84) macd hist -0.57 low 864.75

    short on break @ 864.50. 1:20 channel break and mcd xo. exit 864.00.

    short @ 864.50
    cover @ 864.00 +.50

    day: +2.75 9 days: +21.50

    3. 2:25 s(9.09, 22.29) macd hist -.39 low 860.50

    short on break @ 860.25. 2:30 and 2:40 reversal bars and 2:50 macd xo. exit at 863.00 during 2:50 bar.

    short @ 860.25
    cover @ 863.00 -2.75

    day: +0.50 9 days: +19.25

    in general:
    could there be less volume? and these moves totally suck. while i haven't made anything, i haven't lost much either...big whup. the war has killed this market.

    try and find the channel and trade off the bands b/c no follow thru at all.

    anyways have a good weekend.
     
    #510     Mar 28, 2003
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