The Stochastic Indicator

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by jack hershey, Feb 17, 2003.

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  1. trendy

    trendy

    It might be interesting to post theoretical trades in which the stochastics signal a trade, but for which the MACD does not confirm. This would provide a method to determine the actual usefulness of this filter. FWIW
     
    #151     Feb 25, 2003
  2. dkm

    dkm

    A "wash trade" is to exit at break even.
     
    #152     Feb 25, 2003
  3. I have done as you suggested....reviewed the rules Jack posted.

    No where in those rules do I find any reference similar to yours regarding MACD. The only reference I find is that the histogram is supposed to be over +.4.

    But since you are either unfamiliar with Jack's rules, or have established your own rules, I should point out that under Jack's rules he would not have taken a buy at around 10:50AM, because the trigger for a buy is the slow stochastic, not the fast that you are operating with. The MACD however was not the problem under the rules Jack published.

    My suggestion would be that when you post the results of these trades that you make, that you post the method you are using, since you evidently are using a modification of Jack's method. There may be a few people who would like to know whose method they are using....Jack's or Tampa's.

    OldTrader
     
    #153     Feb 25, 2003
  4. tampa

    tampa

    For the life of me I cannot recall asking for your advice, guidance, opinions, or views. But now that I think about it, virtually no one ever has, although that hasn't kept you from offering them.

    Now allow me to refer you to what I have written. A close examination of same will reveal that I said things like: "...as I understand it". Perchance you might even want to read more of Jack's work. You will find reference to "cheating", using 25-75 triggers, single line entry, and mention of MACD crossovers.

    But the real point here is not your interest in a strict adherence to Jack's writings, nor a concern for those following along, and certainly no interest in the method for your own edification. It is your meddling, nitpicking, and desire to demonstrate your superior skills and knowledge.

    Should you have any further questions, address them to Jack. Should you have any additional critiques of how I am trading the method, please feel free to report me at once to the author as well.

    As far as I am concerned, this matter is closed.
     
    #154     Feb 25, 2003
  5. mezzanine

    mezzanine


    This is a MESSAGE BOARD. If you don't want someone to post their opinions or views, don't post here. I'm glad OldTrader offers his views, because they are more informed than just about anyone elses on these boards.
     
    #155     Feb 25, 2003
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Sounds like somebody didn't get his nap today :p

    --Db
     
    #156     Feb 25, 2003
  7. dawg

    dawg

    1. Short below the 9:45 Bar stoch(5.77, 12.82) already had a MACD reading below -0.4, but waited for low of day to break (only 0.25 difference) b/c market opened below the 20 line.

    Short @ 822.75
    Cover @ 819.50
    Trade: +3.25 Day: 3.25 Week: +5.25

    Reason for exit: Double reversal candles, large vol print 24k @ 10:00, MACD 5m XO @ 10:15.

    Did not look for trades until after 1:15

    2. Long above the 1:20 5m bar stoch(100, 91.67) MACD Hist 0.44.

    Long @ 825.50
    Sell @ 822.75
    Trade: -2.75 Day: +0.50 Week: +2.50

    Reason for exit: 1:35 bar stoch(56.00, 70.50) broke low of this bar.

    3. 1:55 bar Stoch(95.24, 80.87) i viewed this as a re-entry of the current trend, so was not looking for the MACD reading although it did go over 0.4 on the bar I entered. I waited for the HOD to be borken and bought on the b/o.

    Long @ 827.25
    Sell @ 828.50
    Trade: +1.25 Day: +1.75 Week: +3.75

    Reason for exit: 2:35 bar Stoch(64.10, 76.07) went below low of this bar and i sold.

    4. 3:20 bar stoch(82.76, 83.65), several MACD hist readings above 0.4. Buy above 3:20 5m bar.

    Long @ 834.50
    Sell @ 839.25
    Trade: +4.75 Day: +6.50 Week: +8.50

    Reason for exit: 4pm close

    Thought people might be interested. So far it has been majority of grinding type-breakeven trades with a few real nice winners, but if there is any extended trending you will definitely get a good portion of the move. Like a lot of trading a few winners may make up the bulk of the profits. Not making any conclusions just observing the results so far.
     
    #157     Feb 25, 2003
  8. trendy

    trendy

    Funny :D

    Maybe the handle should be tampon instead of tampa?
     
    #158     Feb 25, 2003
  9. Nihaba,

    I agree with you. I could probably agree with you even more after reading your elaborate post more carefully, but have no time
    for that at this point.

    Yes, by BBs I meant Bollinger Bands and yes I do use the PSAR as well and find it very useful.

    Take care,
    Wally
     
    #159     Feb 25, 2003
  10. tampa, you're a bitch.

    F. P.
     
    #160     Feb 25, 2003
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