The SPX has hit a cyclical top

Discussion in 'Trading' started by destriero, Sep 17, 2018.

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  1. Banjo

    Banjo

  2. destriero

    destriero

    Not one like on the opening post, so you've made your case clear. We'll see!
     
    #12     Sep 18, 2018
  3. destriero

    destriero

    We can use this as the default prop-bet. The SPX Dec2019 3000/3100 short call vert from 49.50 mid:

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    #13     Sep 18, 2018
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  4. ET180

    ET180

    My prediction is we'll break S&P 3000 this fall. Maybe S&P 3100 or 3200. Why? Solid earnings and a buyback bubble (companies planning about $500B in buybacks). Should be enough to keep the market climbing.
     
    #14     Sep 18, 2018
  5. destriero

    destriero


    Nobody cares.

    They're buying back shares at something like a 22 multiple. Nothing like buying your shares at the ATH and then share offerings once we've dropped 20%.

    History will show that share bbacks at 2900-3000 was a huge mistake.

    JNJ at a 25 multiple. MSFT at 29. AAPL at 20 into a softening phone market. HOME DEPOT... 24x.

    KO at 34x. I would short KO and HD outright. I'll short in vol on the remaining names. KO 46 last. HD 210.

     
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    #15     Sep 18, 2018
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  6. jasonc

    jasonc

    Honestly, buy stocks, this market is only going up and any sell off will result in Trump caving and instituting policies to push things up or the fed intervening. Aside from a quick 2-3% sell off risk there seems to be nothing that can scare the US market. I think it is important to consider we have both politicians and central bankers who are using the stock market as a gauge of success.
     
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    #16     Sep 18, 2018
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  7. destriero

    destriero

    Boeing is going to touch 300 inside a year (360.43 last).
     
    #17     Sep 18, 2018
  8. destriero

    destriero

    My list to short in single-names and today's prices (descending in confidence):

    HD 210.22
    BA 360.43
    MCD 157.98
    KO 46.14
     
    #18     Sep 18, 2018
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    The Fed is just trying to keep things "humming" ........... as long as they possibly can.

    And one of the reasons they can is because of China and other low wage cost producing countries.

    Because if not for benign inflation (which we all know it not really as benign as they say) interest rates would be as low as they are and assets would be as high as they are.

    If this Tariff Tantrum goes on much longer we might begin to see signs of .... pop pop pop. Top top top.
     
    #19     Sep 18, 2018
  10. treeman

    treeman

    Multiples.. haha. So few people understand them. They use multiples from the 40’s and compare them to today. There’s plenty of upside.
     
    #20     Sep 18, 2018
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