the sooner we get away from BEEF

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by killthesunshine, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. "A 100% vegan diet – done intelligently – can work well for many people, but that does not mean it is optimal for everyone. A vegan diet can be unhealthy, e.g., diets based on junk foods or soy meat analogues. Those attempting strict vegan diets are advised to pay attention to their nutrition."




    "Essential fatty acids (EFA). It can be difficult to get adequate amounts of EFAs on low-fat vegan diets. There are two primary types of EFA: omega-3 (n-3) and omega-6 (n-6). Vegan diets are usually very low in n-3 (ALA: alpha-linolenic acid) and higher in n-6 (LA: linoleic acid). The Institute of Medicine (2005) suggests adequate intakes (AI) for LA of 17 and 12 grams/day for men and women; for ALA 1.6 and 1.1 grams/day."




    "Genetics may be a factor (for some individuals) in the conversion to EPA, DHA. Individuals descended from populations that consumed significant quantities of fish (fresh and/or salt-water) over a long/evolutionary period of time might not produce adequate levels of the enzymes required for conversion (Davis, personal communication; also see Simopolous 1999). This may be relevant to, for example, some people from: Ireland (McQuade & O'Donnell 2007), Britain (Richards et al. 2005, 2006; Bocherens & Drucker 2006), Northern Spain (Adán et al. 2009)."

    ("This may be relevant to, for example, some people from: Ireland (McQuade & O'Donnell 2007), Britain (Richards et al. 2005, 2006; Bocherens & Drucker 2006), Northern Spain (Adán et al. 2009)."







    "A more realistic view is to observe that the range of our natural diet is defined by evolution, which for humans includes tool use and the effects of language and culture, all of which are strong evolutionary selective pressures. The natural human diet is a hybrid between a non-vegetarian hunter-gatherer diet and the plant-based agricultural diets that have dominated since the Neolithic revolution. Where each individual falls in that range will vary according to genetics and other factors."

    ("Where each individual falls in that range will vary according to genetics and other factors.")


    http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/fresh/vegan-optimal-1a.shtml
     
    #1801     Aug 9, 2010
  2. It's their own poop.
    Fresh from the, er , bakery.

    Well, like David Attenborough said........"We dont know if it's because vital nutrients are missed , or if it's just a hot meal on a cold day."

    Eeewwww.

    Gorillla poop....coming soon to your nearest vegan grocery store.:D
     
    #1802     Aug 11, 2010
  3. i have no problem getting the RDA for protein :D
     
    #1803     Aug 11, 2010
  4. The vegetarian diet of monkeys.

    A article recently published in "Nutrition: The International Journal of Basic
    and Applied Nutritional Sciences"
    (1999; 15[6]:488-498), reports that the vegetarian diet of monkeys in the wild
    is far more nutritious than our own diets and far exceeds the government's
    recommended daily allowances (RDA) for humans.

    The suprising new study shows that monkeys are pickier eaters then humans and
    they easily find fruits and leafy foods that are far more nutritious than most
    of those in our supermarkets. Katharine Milton, a University of California
    anthropologist, studied the eating habits of four species of monkeys (Cebus,
    howler, spider and tamarin) that live in a research station maintained by the
    Smithsonian Institution on Barro Colorado
    Island in Panama. Milton, who has been studying primates there for 25 years,
    tracked the monkeys through the forest of the Panamanian nature preserve,
    picking up the food they dropped or threw from the trees.
    By looking at the eating habits of these four species of monkeys (whose average
    weight was about 15 pounds) she discovered that the wild monkeys consumed about
    600 milligrams of vitamin C per
    day, which is 10 times the RDA for a 150-pound human. For calcium, she found
    that the monkeys consumed 4,571 milligrams per day which is almost 6 times the
    human RDA of 800 milligrams. For potassium, the monkeys ate 6,419 milligrams,
    while humans consume from 1,600 to 2,000 milligrams per day.
    Besides consuming more then 3-10 times the vitamin C, calcium, and potassium
    than is recommended for an adult man 10 times larger then the monkeys, the
    monkeys also consumed far more magnesium, iron and phosphorous then most humans.
    The diet of these monkeys (which is also considered the common diet among
    monkeys and apes worldwide) consisted of berries, figs, grapes, palmfruits,
    plum-like fruits, and many different leaves. "We know people are not monkeys,
    and most people don't eat wild plants" says Milton. "But I was still surprised
    that their diet is so much more nutritious than our own." The fruits that the
    monkeys ate contained higher levels of calcium, potassium and iron than the
    cultivated varieties found in American supermarkets. Milton also found that
    monkeys ate a high content of alpha-linolenic acid(the short chain omega-3 fatty
    acid), a nutrient that is lacking in the diets of most humans.


    Not only are wild varieties of fruits and leaves generally more nutritious than
    grocery store versions, but the monkeys also tended to eat the most nutritious
    parts, gobbling up, for instance, only the tip of a young, tender leaf and
    discarding the rest. "Young leaf tips have the same profile of essential amino
    acids as meat, although in lower concentrations. I had always assumed leafy
    material was deficient in some amino acids, but it is not," she says.
    Although
    scientists don't really know how the monkeys do it, they apparently use smell to
    figure out which are the ultra-nutritious morsels, she says. "A monkey can sniff
    a wild leaf and know instantly if the leaf is worth eating. Even when they're
    hungry, they'll shun leaves they deem not to be worth their while."

    Today, and throughout our history, humans have suffered from all sorts of
    diet-related disease. Milton suggests that if we pay more attention to what our
    wild primate relatives are eating, and studied these wild plants more closely,
    and the ability of primates to assimilate vitamins and minerals, perhaps we
    could learn more about our own dietary needs, reduce health problems and benefit
    people worldwide.


    GO APE!!! :D
     
    #1804     Aug 11, 2010
  5. #1805     Aug 19, 2010
  6. They would of done worse. :D
     
    #1806     Aug 19, 2010
  7. #1807     Aug 19, 2010
  8. Looks like some kind of animal pooped on top of it. :p
     
    #1808     Aug 20, 2010
  9. your thinking of a rump roast :D
     
    #1809     Aug 21, 2010
  10. Yes, it looks like something that came out of a cow's rump. :p
     
    #1810     Aug 22, 2010