the sooner we get away from BEEF

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by killthesunshine, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. This time however, the culprit is not fat but nucleic acids from, for instance, muscle tissue (MEAT). The uric acid formed in the digestion process then crystallizes. These crystals can unleash a powerful inflammatory reaction.
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100428142300.htm

    CHOLESTEROL KILLS!
    BEEF is full of cholesterol
    GIVE BEEF DA BOOT! :D
     
    #1471     May 3, 2010
  2. do you like FOOD more than LIFE itself because most of you are killing yourself with your diet :eek: :confused:
     
    #1472     May 3, 2010
  3. I had very high cholesterol and triglycerides and my doctor said that eating meat had nothing to do with it. She put me on a diet of meat, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds. Absolutley NO sugar, grains, processed foods or dairy, except for a small amount of yoghurt. My meat consumption went up and my cholesterol fell 150 points in less than a year (ratio of good to bad cholesterol improved proportionally). She said that I can eat all the meat I want as long as it's not fried.

    I'm not a nutrition expert so I can't argue the science, I'm just giving you my experience.


     
    #1473     May 3, 2010
  4. don't know who is bigger idiot but does it matter :D
     
    #1474     May 3, 2010
  5. What does that mean? Are you saying that my doctor is an idiot?


     
    #1475     May 3, 2010
  6. There are no studies that show that cholesterol falls in any significant way when you simply stop eating meat. That's why people change their diet and still have to be put on statin drugs anyway to reduce their cholesterol.

    The reason is that 85% of the cholesterol in your system is manufactured by your own liver, intestines and adrenal glands. Statin drugs (e.g., Lipitor) work by forcing your liver to produce less cholesterol. Just eliminating meat consumption will not work.

    C-reactive protein (inflammatory response) falls only slightly when people stop eating meat. However, for 70% of the population, if they stop eating refined sugar, processed foods and grains, both cholesterol and c-reactive protien fall significantly even if they continue to consume meat. The reason is that cholesterol is produced by the body as part of a hormone (insulin) response to the consumption of sugars/grains. For most people, eliminating sugar and grains reduces both cholesterol and c-reactive protiens.

    My cholesterol fell to half of what it was and my c-reactive protein fell like a rock without any drugs simply by eliminating all refined sugar, processed foods and grains from my diet. But I still eat lots of meat.









     
    #1476     May 3, 2010
  7. Quite a natural diet, unlike what KTS is proposing in this thread.
     
    #1477     May 4, 2010
  8. Once I stopped eating sugars, grains and processed foods I started to feel better. I wasn't really sick, but I was getting all the middle-aged symptoms (weight gain, fatigue, rising cholesterol, etc.) even though I was working out regularly. I changed my diet and now I feel twenty years younger.

     
    #1478     May 4, 2010
  9. i guess your wrong afterall :D

    J Am Coll Nutr. 1995 Oct;14(5):491-6.Links
    Rapid reduction of serum cholesterol and blood
    pressure by a twelve-day, very low fat, strictly
    vegetarian diet.McDougall J, Litzau K, Haver E,
    Saunders V, Spiller GA.
    St. Helena Hospital, Deer Park, California 94576, USA.

    OBJECTIVE: This study was conducted to demonstrate the
    effectiveness of a strictly vegetarian, very low-fat
    diet on cardiac risk factor modification. METHODS:
    Five hundred men and women, participants in an
    intensive 12-day live-in program, were studied. The
    program focused on dietary modification, moderate
    exercise, and stress management at a hospital-based
    health-center. RESULTS: During this short time period,
    cardiac risk factors improved: there was an average
    reduction of total serum cholesterol of 11% (p <
    0.001), of blood pressure of 6% (p < 0.001) and a
    weight loss of 2.5 kg for men and 1 kg for women.
    Serum triglycerides did not increase except for two
    subgroups: females age > or = 65 years with serum
    cholesterol < 6.5 mmol/L and for females 50 to 64
    years with baseline serum cholesterol between 5.2-6.5
    mmol/L. High-density lipoprotein cholesterol measured
    on 66 subjects decreased by 19%. CONCLUSION: A strict,
    very low-fat vegetarian diet free from all animal
    products combined with lifestyle changes that include
    exercise and weight loss is an effective way to lower
    serum cholesterol and blood pressure.
     
    #1479     May 5, 2010
  10. Who cares how you "feel".

    Everyone feels great till they don't, then they feel not so good :D
     
    #1480     May 5, 2010