The slow death pattern what do i do with it?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by mute9003, Dec 23, 2021.

  1. mute9003

    mute9003

    so is it shortsellers driving the price down of just lack of demand and bagholders placing sell orders trying to get out?
    I dont have this stock not sure why some people assumed i bought it
     
    #11     Dec 23, 2021
  2. zghorner

    zghorner

    I dont really think there are a lot of people shorting pennies...the risk is so great it scares retails...I cant imagine institutions doing it but maybe im wrong. I genuinely think the buying gets hyped on mediocre news by bagholders thirsty to unload. buying dries up and price stalls...then the slow death occurs as retail bagholders slowly throw in the towel one by one as they accept what has happened.
     
    #12     Dec 23, 2021
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  3. mute9003

    mute9003

    Any way to tell whether it hit thw rockbottom and ready for gathering another pump and dump?
     
    #13     Dec 23, 2021
  4. zghorner

    zghorner

    Ask this guy: https://www.timothysykes.com/
     
    #14     Dec 23, 2021
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  5. mute9003

    mute9003

    How am i supposed to ask him lol
    Its not like i have his number
     
    #15     Dec 24, 2021
  6. tomorton

    tomorton

    TA on smallcaps is unreliable. Its like taking a public opinion poll with a sample size that is just too small and which contains some radical fanatics and agitators.
     
    #16     Dec 24, 2021
  7. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    This pattern is "easy" because it's hard to actually profit from it. Consider the options:

    Shorting. So you need to borrow shares and watch out for borrowing rate. Furthermore, the "apparent easy" slow money part is counteracted by potentially explosive multiple 100% (or historically potentially worse) gaps. Dealing with those either requires incredibly careful position sizing (and huge numbers of positions to make any money) or being long calls - similar to next paragraph. Better left to algos than discretionary trades IMO.

    Long puts. Assumes you can even buy puts in the stock at reasonable spreads. The problem is, everyone selling them knows the stock is going to shit and puts will be priced accordingly - no free lunch.

    My suggestion: Do some backtesting on these, and you will see the no free lunch aspects. At least, after doing this kind of basic sanity checking is why I haven't ever shorted shit stocks yet. If I just did it blindly, it would seem to work great for a while and then one day I would be wiped.

    On the flip side, I've heard traders refer to this as being maybe the best easily available edge out there for retail, since the complicated part is implementing it, not spotting it.
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2021
    #17     Dec 24, 2021
  8. smallfil

    smallfil

    There are a lot of opportunities and stockcharts on smallcaps is just as good as those on big cap stocks. Each trader analyzes each stockchart differently, and I have added my own secret sauce to make it more effective.
     
    #18     Dec 24, 2021
  9. mute9003

    mute9003

    I do see alot of algo trading in this pattern on one minute charts. Almost every day.
     
    #19     Dec 24, 2021
  10. Handle123

    Handle123

    Quick moves happen good deal scalping in ES, usually stops beyond some S/R, then momentum traders come in, then emotional traders get on board and people who have well defined patterns wait for volume reduction to go counter trend. One of my favorite signals.
     
    #20     Dec 24, 2021