The skew part II

Discussion in 'Options' started by dmo, Aug 28, 2008.

  1. dmo

    dmo

    Am I really that bad? And I thought I was ALWAYS reasonable! :)

    Really, I think the one time I really made a bold claim was when I mentioned the negative correlation between the SPX and the VIX. And I kind of did it purposely, as a challenge to myself and my theory, knowing it would bring out the critics. If anyone could post a chart showing that's incorrect, I truly would be interested in seeing it. I think you challenged it MAW - didn't you mention a period of time in the late nineties (?) where the SPX jumped sharply, and you were sure the VIX must have jumped too? Unfortunately I don't have access to daily data that far back. But if you or anyone can find a chart where over a significant period that negative correlation does not hold, I would love to see it.
     
    #41     Sep 12, 2008
  2. dmo

    dmo

    I'm delighted to hear it's helpful. Funny you should mention a book - many many years ago I thought of writing a book, as there were absolutely no good books on options available at the time. Then Shelly Natenberg - who was also in T-bond options at the time - came out with his book. It was so well done I thought anything I would write would be superfluous. But my interactions here have made me think that maybe it's worth looking into after all.
     
    #42     Sep 12, 2008
  3. As you want, I will ... :)
    But, you started a thread about skew and I will quote the guy that is, throughout the world, known about that: Emanuel Derman.
    So if you want some pictures about volty surfaces that have changed read thoses courses, you can skip the maths (I would explain it as far as I could if you want).

    So yes you are that bad.:D

    http://www.ederman.com/new/docs/laughter.html
     
    #43     Sep 12, 2008
  4. Your ability to explain things is quite good. Very high signal to noise ratio! Start now laying out the skeleton and perhaps in a year or two you might have something. The work would be putting the flesh on the skeleton. Ciao. btw, next Friday's option expiry has shaped up to be VERY interesting.
     
    #44     Sep 12, 2008
  5. In model-based pricing of options, it is assumed that options are JUST a derivative. Shorter term options may actually be more than just a derivative, as they can influence the movement of the underlyer. In such cases, models such as the BS model, are not applicable, and skew seems to me to normal, as each strike gives its own unique influence on volty (volatilty of underlyer + influences on it resulting from option trading at different strikes).
     
    #45     Sep 14, 2008