The Shorting of Frauds, Overhyped and Bankrupt Stocks Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. anyone looking into shorting the chinese construction (and related) companies? will looking it myself some more.
    Will share
     
    #661     Apr 17, 2013
  2. Daal

    Daal

    Eike is getting destroyed in the media every week. I'm skeptical of shorting situations like this because with so much pessimism usually the asset trades bellow its fair value, he also employs a lot of people, no idea if he will get bailed out or not but its a risk. I was actually thinking of buying one of his stocks because there is probably one good company that is getting dragged down in the media hate. But only 2 or 3 trades in NY and I don't have a brazilian broker because it hurts my US buying power
     
    #662     Apr 17, 2013
  3. Off the cuff, and not having read anything except the first post, I'd like to comment. First, it should never matter to you who "else" is short (or long) or neutral. More pertinent to this post, in shorting you should always leave yourself an out, no matter how bad the company looks (bad meaning there are a lot of strong reasons the price may drop). There are larger companies always looking to buy a company on the cheap, even if they want just a part or even intellectual property of the "dying" company. Acquisitions typically raise the stock price of the company being purchased.

    Of course, none of this is as important as sticking to your rules for closing out a position.

    I have not opened a position long since 2005, except some of the ultra short etfs.
     
    #663     Apr 17, 2013
  4. putting xin on my watchlist
     
    #664     Apr 17, 2013
  5. Daal

    Daal

    #665     Apr 18, 2013
  6. my best short ideas at the moment: DATE, EC and ACHN
     
    #666     Apr 18, 2013
  7. Daal

    Daal

    could you explain the thesis behind it?
     
    #667     Apr 18, 2013
  8. ACHN is burning through cash
    downward trend
    ugly market action
    traces of manipilation/ squeezes
     
    #668     Apr 18, 2013
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    #669     Apr 18, 2013
  10. Daal

    Daal

    As I understand the borrow rates after the options prices (due higher delta hedging costs) so one way or the other you pay up
     
    #670     Apr 18, 2013