The Shorting of Frauds, Overhyped and Bankrupt Stocks Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. Daal

    Daal

    ATPG will file soon. News broke but no shares at IB. Its a shame, I would have gotten in at $1.20 ish, reacted quickly but no luck
     
    #211     Aug 10, 2012
  2. Daal

    Daal

    Compounded the situation by not checking for SSFs. Stock has it, I could have shorted. I bet the MMers will NOT quote anything reasonable after the halt ends
     
    #212     Aug 10, 2012
  3. Daal

    Daal

    Stock opens but SSFs MMrs apparently are in 'lunch break'
     
    #213     Aug 10, 2012
  4. Daal

    Daal

    Using PCX as guide ATPG is likely to trade at 0.30 after bk
    Both have similar balance sheet sizes and are in similar sectors. I got filled on a whooping 1 contract of the SSF after the halt. I might not even make money, MMrs took care of their risk well. Before the halt I'm sure their quotes could have been shorted nicely. Lesson learned
     
    #214     Aug 10, 2012
  5. Daal

    Daal

    I noticed that after I got filled the MM algo immediately dropped their bid by a lot. They probably programmed into the algo that if the vol spikes and all the sudden they start getting hit, the quotes are then made 'wide' with bids dropping and asks rising. I wonder if anyone else noticed this

    If that is true always hit them with full size, don't break the order into pieces, take all of what is available on the quote. I didn't do this here because frankly the futures price was damn low
     
    #215     Aug 10, 2012
  6. Daal

    Daal

    Some HFT stock Market Makers sometimes 'pull away' their quote and give you a small fill when you try to take them for the whole thing they are displaying. I just hope that is not the case with OneChicago market makers because if it is, the whole exchange is a joke
     
    #216     Aug 10, 2012
  7. Daal

    Daal

    KCG is now a hard to borrow stock with a 38% annual short fee. Looks like the shorts are sniffing out a decline
     
    #217     Aug 16, 2012
  8. Daal

    Daal

    ATPG filled for Chap 11. I'm making a whooping $20 there, if there were shares to short on the day of the rumor OR if I didn't make the bad mistake of not checking for the single stock future until it was late, I could have made $2,000 or more for a few hours of wrok
    Or maybe even just buying puts after the rumor, not a big fan due the spreads but in a situation like this its probably the right play
     
    #218     Aug 20, 2012
  9. Daal

    Daal

    If anyone have other stocks on the bankruptcy watch let me know, so far this thread had a few names mentioned before they went bust(And to profit all one had to do was have a good news service and be quick to act after rumors break)

    FMCN might get acquired, still holding my puts there, market is SUPER skeptical of the deal, stock is trading quite a bit bellow the takeout price

    I did cover EDU after the FMCN news because it look like the chinese are even bigger scumbags than thought. Seems like they will try to cover up their frauds by forcing buyouts to keep the ponzi going
     
    #219     Aug 20, 2012
  10. Daal

    Daal

    And these buyouts seem to be gunned towards stocks exposed by Muddy Waters, the most vocal firm about chinese fraud. I'm not sure how this dynamic will play out, I don't think the chinese has that much money to burn buying crap fraudlent companies but the squeeze potential of muddy picks will go through the roof in the meantime(the muddy panic sell-offs also will get smaller, at least for now)
     
    #220     Aug 20, 2012