The Shorting of Frauds, Overhyped and Bankrupt Stocks Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. m22au

    m22au

    Good pickup, but surely the 400 million capital raise will help to alleviate the "impact to the Company's capital base and the resultant loss of customer and counterparty confidence".

    That's why it's not as much of a concern once the transaction is finalized today.
     
    #181     Aug 6, 2012
  2. Daal

    Daal

    In a rational world you are correct, I'm afraid people aren't so rational sometimes and they put discounts in things like that
     
    #182     Aug 6, 2012
  3. m22au

    m22au

    a possible range for today

    Low of 2.27 (Thursday low)
    High of 2.90 (high reached after 7am)

    Using 356 million share count
    (266 new + 90 existing)

    356 * 2.27 = 808 million

    356 * 2.90 = 1032 million (roughly where it was before Wednesday morning)
     
    #183     Aug 6, 2012
  4. Daal

    Daal

    Knight Capital Should Trade at $2.17-$2.47/Shr, BTIG Says

    I'm on the lower end of this but its correct price is certainly not where it is right now on the pre-market
     
    #184     Aug 6, 2012
  5. m22au

    m22au

    If you gave me a 30 cent range, I'd say $2.27 to $2.57.

    But agree that $2.76 seems high still.
     
    #185     Aug 6, 2012
  6. Daal

    Daal

    "NYSE Euronext temporarily re-assigns Knight DMM responsibilities to GETCO DMM
    In accordance with applicable rules, the New York Stock Exchange (NYX) and NYSE MKT have temporarily assigned custodial responsibility for approximately 524 New York Stock Exchange and 156 NYSE MKT listed securities from the Designated Market Maker unit of Knight Capital Americas LLC (KCG) to the DMM of GETCO LLC, which currently serves some 896 NYSE- and NYSE MKT-assigned securities, effective Monday, Aug. 6, 2012. Upon Knight Capital Group, Inc.’s completion and approval of a recapitalization plan, all temporarily reassigned NYSE and NYSE MKT securities as well as DMM staff, operations and systems oversight will be returned to Knight Capital Americas in a timely manner. "

    Good luck for shareholders to try to vote the deal down
     
    #186     Aug 6, 2012
  7. Daal

    Daal

    If they vote the deal down the company is literally out of business(MM business)
     
    #187     Aug 6, 2012
  8. Daal

    Daal

    I noticed that there are 2 pre-markets. From 4AM EST to 9AM EST and 9AM EST to the open
    After 9AM there is a liquidity burst, I believe some other ECNs open up for business. Stock got halted right after that but the real price will start to be set from now on. The first pre-market is too illiquid and not likely to be the equilibrium price
     
    #188     Aug 6, 2012
  9. zdreg

    zdreg

    the firm will survive and perhaps thrive since it is based upon screwing the public investor. no wonder firms like scott trade and ameritrade deal with them vanguard is a minor surprise.

    "The first pre-market is too illiquid and not likely to be the equilibrium price"

    not necessarily. it was close enough today with the trading stopping at 2.76 at 8:04 which is considerable distance from 9:am. by the way the 2nd session session by most definitions starts at 8am not 9am.
     
    #189     Aug 6, 2012
  10. Absolute gift for Getco. Wow.
     
    #190     Aug 6, 2012