The secrets behind my best strategy for VIX - VIXTrader

Discussion in 'Trading' started by RobertPeterson, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    I click your links, and what I get is your stats, plus this little blurb...

    "These results are based on simulated or hypothetical performance results that have certain inherent limitations. Unlike the results shown in an actual performance record, these results do not represent actual trading. Also, because these trades have not actually been executed, these results may have under-or over-compensated for the impact, if any, of certain market factors, such as lack of liquidity. Simulated or hypothetical trading programs in general are also subject to the fact that they are designed with the benefit of hindsight. No representation is being made that..."

    Etc ad nauseum. Are you live, or Memorex? Just post your statements from your live broker. I do it in my journal. Why don't you do it in yours? Are you sim?
     
    #21     Oct 21, 2017
  2. See here what some of the users tell about the strategies..
    I am speaking here about real money of course.. This is just a regular warning..

    https://forums.collective2.com/t/my-best-strategy-for-vix-vixtrader/9048/56
     
    #22     Oct 21, 2017
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Yes, dear. 50%+ drawdown...eeeks! You folks have balls as big as church bells.
     
    #23     Oct 21, 2017
  4. Dude, around 110% or 160% annual return is not much better than holding any inverted vix etf. You need sonething much better before you do marketing.
     
    #24     Oct 21, 2017
  5. FWIW, there have been some fairly large VIX spikes over the last two years:

    SDate Close prevClose absChange
    ===== ===== ========= =========
    20160624, 25.76, 17.25, .401010758
    20170517, 15.59, 10.65, .381069791
    20170810, 16.04, 11.11, .367239999
    20160909, 17.5, 12.51, .335672556
    20170424, 10.84, 14.63, .299831219
    20170817, 15.55, 11.74, .281058824
    20161109, 14.38, 18.74, .264821925
    20160628, 18.75, 23.85, .240590465
    20170814, 12.33, 15.51, .22944966
    20160613, 20.97, 17.03, .20811635

    Also, the $6 million traded on these strats likely
    refers to the notional traded by his C2 subcribers.

    I don't see any secrets in the RobinsonG's posts
    so far. The real secret is that his income comes
    from C2 subscription fees and that his original
    post is a thinly disguised advert for his C2 systems.

    Query that generated the figures above:

    SELECT SDate,Close,
    LAG(close,1) IGNORE NULLS OVER (ORDER BY SDate) AS prevClose,
    abs(ln(Close/LAG(Close,1) IGNORE NULLS OVER (ORDER BY SDate))) AS absChange
    FROM Indices WHERE SDate > '20151020' AND Symbol = 'VIX' AND Source = 'BDHIX'
    ORDER BY absChange DESC FETCH FIRST 10 ROWS ONLY;
     
    #25     Oct 22, 2017
  6. Where do you see 50% DD? :)
     
    #26     Oct 22, 2017
  7. Where do you see 50% DD? :)
    You wrote: "I suspect reality will teach you soon".. By Soon you mean tomorrow, next week, next month, next year or even 5 years from now? :)
    I do not have the ability to see the future.. When the time will come and the volatility will increase, I expect to see the performance increase as well..

    Let me clarify: The strategies based on ETNs, Indexes, Options and Futures data since 1.2009 and made thousands of trades..


    VIXTrader back test and live results since 1.2009:

    VIXTrader 1.2009 - 10.2017.png
     
    #27     Oct 22, 2017
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    Oh nvm, that was posted by someone who was following a different trader who was shorting.
     
    #28     Oct 22, 2017
  9. d08

    d08

    I'd say within a year. No-one has the ability to see the future but you should definitely test it on data from 2008, you can generate synthetic data based on the VIX index even if you don't have real trade data available - it will be a good enough approximation.
     
    #29     Oct 22, 2017
  10. carrer

    carrer

    I am not familiar with the instrument. I would like to know how much of leverage you are using?
     
    #30     Oct 22, 2017