The secret sauce of Shidongkou No. 2 Power Plant, China takes lead in CO2 capture

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by tmarket, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. If you don't take the lead in clean energy research, someone else would and did. The United States has the world's largest coal reserves, but it is China that is leading the advances in carbon capture.

    "The buzz began in late 2009, after officials at the government-owned Huaneng Group opened a facility that captures some of the carbon dioxide emitted by the existing giant 1,320-megawatt coal-fired Shidongkou power station. The system scrubs roughly 120,000 tonnes of CO2 a year from 3% of the facility's flue gases, but what has caught everybody's eye is the cost that Huaneng quotes: a mere US$30–35 per tonne of CO2, including the further expense of purifying the captured gas for use in the food and beverage industry.

    That is far below the $100 or more typically estimated for first-generation projects to retrofit existing power plants for carbon capture and storage (CCS) in the United States and Europe

    Huaneng has not yet revealed all the technical details of its CCS process. Huang Bin, head of Huaneng's Research and Development Division in Beijing, says that the company has made unspecified changes in the design of the plant and the chemistry of the solvent, which increased the energy efficiency of the system by 11–14% and reduced the cost of installation by a factor of 10 per tonne of CO2.

    "Huaneng is using a known process, but they seem to have found a way to do it much more economically," says David Mohler, chief technology officer of Duke Energy, an electric utility company based in Charlotte, North Carolina. "What's the secret sauce?" he adds."
  2. Lying about the numbers, perhaps?

    <i>"Huaneng is using a known process, but they seem to have found a way to do it much more economically,"</i> ---->
    "Madoff is using a known strategy, but he seems to have found a way to do it much more profitably."
  3. Maybe we should take a page from their notebook.

    Let them waste money and time inventing a process, then we just steal it and perfect it.
  4. Shocking that everything would be cheaper in China.
  5. Ricter


    But why would we want it, perfect or otherwise, since there is no warming, no climate change, and CO2 is not a problem?
  6. I didn't say nor imply that it helped solve a certain non-existent problem.

    Perhaps it will be of no use at all , but that's the beauty of free market capitalism people are free to waste their money on all sorts of useless things because it makes them feel good.
  7. Ricter


    So, "we just steal it and perfect it" was useless typing that... made you feel good?
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  9. Ricter



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    Excellant points.LOL:D

    And Algore, while the Weather channel founder said he should be sued for fraud;
    we can give him ''credit'' for accidently re-minding us every plant needs CO2 to live ................................................................:cool:
    #10     Jan 19, 2011