The Science of Fox News: Why Its Viewers are the Most Misinformed

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. Brass

    Brass

    Precisely. A very Foxworthy tactic.
     
    #11     Apr 16, 2012
  2. Foxworthy:D :D

    I am going to have to steal that.

    And if you watch Fox News.....yoooou might be a redneck:D
     
    #12     Apr 16, 2012
  3. Max E.

    Max E.

    No whats even funnier is the length of you meatheads on the left have to go to, in order to try to dismiss the fact that almost every single atrocity in history has been enacted by leftists... you have to say ridiculous things like Mao the communist was actually right wing..... "Or the parties switched sides"

    Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, All Lefties.... The worst murderers in history have all been lefties, and that doesnt even account for all the deaths that communism in and of itself can be blamed for due to the fact that countries go broke and there is no food to feed anyone, and they turn into total shitholes like Cuba and Venezuela....

    Slavery, Left
    jim Crow, Left
    K.K.K. Left

     
    #13     Apr 16, 2012
  4. Dixiecrats......which you know Max, you are not dumb. You also know where they reside today.
     
    #14     Apr 16, 2012
  5. Brass

    Brass

    I do believe you've stumbled upon their new slogan.
     
    #15     Apr 16, 2012
  6. Brass

    Brass

    Submitted for your consideration:
    Question: Is the above-quoted post the product of homeschooling or mental defect? (Note: the choices need not be mutually exclusive.)

    As an aside, it is interesting to observe that people like Max can only support their world view with distortion and outright fabrication. The question is, who are they trying to convince? They keep doubling down, straining to support a contrived perception that bears little or no resemblance to reality.
     
    #16     Apr 16, 2012
  7. Tom B

    Tom B

    The video is very dishonest. Hitler was right-wing; however, Stalin and Mao were not "right-wing". They were left-wing communists/ socialists. The two combined probably killed more people than anyone else in the history of man kind.
     
    #17     Apr 16, 2012
  8. Max E.

    Max E.

    The horses brASS is so gullible he will believe anything he reads on the internet provided it is an attack on conservatives. In this case he is presenting a video which has all of 286 views on youtube, written by some hipster latte sipping doofus in a fedora, and he doesnt even seem to care how much of an ass he makes of himself, by presenting a video as fact, where the guy makes the claim that Stalin and Mao the communists were actually right wing..... probably why he was so easily fooled into believing in the entirely discredited school of Keynesian economics....

    I guess all the big Mao fans in the Obama white house must also be very confused.... lol

    In terms of hitler if you read what was written by the leftist/collectivists before the war they were praising hitler, at best you could say that Hitler's policies were both a mixture of right and left wing. Here is one example from time magazine, just before they made him man of the year, the lefties loved Hitler before the war was in full swing:

    Hitler was named "Man of the Year" in 1938 by Time Magazine. They noted Hitler's anti-capitalistic economic policies:

    "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."

    (Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)
     
    #18     Apr 16, 2012
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I remember seeing that sometime last year. Talk about having egg on your face.
     
    #19     Apr 16, 2012
  10. Max E.

    Max E.

    Hitler setup the Labour Front. Both employers and employees joined it. According to the National Labour Law of January 20, 1934, the state would exert direct influence and control over all business employing more than twenty persons. In other words, both employers and employees were put under the control of the government.




    Summary: Below is a short economic analysis of German Economy under the Nazis. It is apparent they ran a centralized collectivist economy just like the Soviet Union. It was a political party that acted much in the same way the American Left does in regard to unemployment and trying to use the government to decrease it. It notes that the Nazis used public works to a large extent, which is exceedingly leftist, and put people to work for the State.

    The Nazis started enacting other leftist ploys like price freezes and starting expanding the role of the government and destroying any freedom left in the Market. Private Property owners were dictated to by the State. Clearly Nazis were opponents of capitalism through and through.




    Notes on: "On the Theory of the Centrally Administered Economy: An Analysis of the German Experiment," by Walter Eucken

    Walter Eucken was a professor of economics at the University of Freiburg, Germany and an architect of the economic reforms that led to the Economic Miracle. In this article Eucken wanted to explain the problems and weaknesses of centrally administered economies such as that of National Socialist (Nazi) Germany and the Soviet Union.

    The Nazi economic system developed unintentionally. The initial objective in 1932-33 of its economic policy was just to reduce the high unemployment associated with the Great Depression. This involved public works, expansion of credit, easy monetary policy and manipulation of exchange rates. Generally Centrally Administered Economies (CAE's) have little trouble eliminating unemployment because they can create large public works projects and people are put to work regardless of whether or not their productivity exceeds their wage cost. Nazi Germany was successful in solving the unemployment problem, but after a few years the expansion of the money supply was threatening to create inflation.

    The Nazi Government reacted to the threat of inflation by declaring a general price freeze in 1936. From that action the Nazi Government was driven to expand the role of the government in directing the economy and reducing the role played by market forces. Although private property was not nationalized, its use was more and more determined by the government rather than the owners.

    Eucken uses the case of the leather industry. An individual leather factory produces at the direction of the Leather Control Office. This Control Office arranged for the factory to get the hides and other supplies it needed to produce leather. The output of leather was disposed of according to the dictates of the Leather Control Office. The Control Offices set their directives through a process involving four stages:

    1. The collection of statistical information by a Statistical Section. The Statistical Section tried to assemble all the important data on past production, equipment, storage facilities and raw material requirements.
    2. The planning of production taking into account the requirements of leather by other industries in their plans; e.g. the needs of the Shoe Control Office for supplies of leather. The available supply of hides limited the production of leather. There had to be a balancing of supply and demand. The result of the planning of all the control offices was a Balance Sheet. There was some effort at creating some system for solving the planning, such as production being limited by the narrowest bottleneck, but in practice the planning ended up being simply scaling up past production and planning figures.
    3. The issuing of production orders to the individual factories.
    4. Checking up on compliance with the planning orders.
    In practice the authorities of the control offices often intervened and there was continual negotiation and political battles as the users of products tried to use political influence to improve their allocations. The prices of 1936 made little economic sense, particularly after Germany was at war. So there economic calculations using the official prices were meaningless. In particular, the profitability of a product was of no significance in determining whether it should be produced or not. Losses did not result in a factory ceasing production; the control offices made sure that it got the raw materials and that the workers got rations of necessities.

    At the beginning of the war the Government established a priorities list for allocating scarse resources. Activities associated with the war got top priority and consumer goods production was near the bottom of the list. If two users wanted gasoline any available stocks went to the user with the highest priority. This seems reasonable but, in fact, it led to major problems. Suppose one use of gasoline is for trucks to haul raw materials to factories. If the Government always gives the available gasoline to the Army then the truckers cannot deliver supplies to the factories and they shut down and eventually other factories dependent upon them also shut down. At first the Government tried to handle the problem by revising the priorities list and moving up uses such as gasoline for trucks. But whatever uses got put at the bottom eventually created bottlenecks. In the middle of the war the Government abolished the priority list. It was an unworkable system.

    The problem with making production decisions without reference to relevant prices is that the control offices may dictate the production of goods which are of less value to the economy than the opportunity costs of the resources that go into their production.

    Because of the mistakes and failures of Centrally Administered Economies there are often black markets operating. Although the authorities typically persecute people for dealing in these markets the reality is that such markets are essential for preventing a collapse of the Centrally Administered Economy.

    Production decisions may be made on political criteria that are economically foolish, such as locating a factory in a region to benefit the supporters of some political figure. Even aside from such corruption of the decision process the centrally administered economy suffers from major weaknesses. The centrally administered economy can mobilize resourts quickly for big investment projects but there is no guarantee that there will be a balance of investments. For example, there may be big programs to build railroads but not enough trains to make use of those railroads.

    Although Centrally Administered Economies may appear to be efficient and effective initially their errors and inefficiencies accumulate and eventually result in stagnation if not collapse. Often the apparent successes of such economies are just illusions. Outsiders who do not know how such economies really work are often fooled by these illusions.
     
    #20     Apr 16, 2012