The S&P 500 will top soon at 2925-2930

Discussion in 'Trading' started by volente_00, Apr 16, 2019.

Will the S&P 500 top at 2925-2930 ?

  1. Hell yes your short term top will be correct again

  2. Hell no the bull market will set new all time highs and trade above 3000

  3. You're still a fool for STFT

  4. Who cares Desperado trades Billion dollar FX accounts recruited from twitter

  5. Baron is still 12% body fat and will kick your a$$

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  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    I have been a bear for a long time, but I am interested in real economic analysis. Are millennials dumb in investing? Or are they still on the sidelines and will be supporting the market going forward?

    https://www.finrafoundation.org/fil...tures-7-myths-about-millennials-and-investing
     
    #351     Jun 10, 2019
  2. Specterx

    Specterx

    I haven't done an in-depth analysis myself - but my impression from experience is that the name is steeply overvalued here and will not be a good investment. We're talking about a high-priced niche food product here. The business may well be a smashing success but a $10 billion valuation is nuts.

    At a glance, TSN (second largest meat processor in the world) has a market cap of $24bn and sales of $40bn. BYND has a market cap of $10bn and sales of $40 million. So it's a double from here, in the absolute best case scenario that alternative meat totally displaces real meat AND that BYND ends up the dominant player in the market. The chance of that happening is pretty close to zero.

    A much more likely scenario that would still represent massive outlier success, would be for BYND to end up with $500m-$1bn in sales and a market cap of $750m or so. Maybe they could get acquired for $2bn if acquirers are in a mood to overpay.
     
    #352     Jun 10, 2019
  3. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    I have been a perma bear but I have been in so many short squeezes in the past 10 years that I learned not to short the "obvious". I guess my point is, don't be a hero and short something of limited float. Heros have short lives. If you do short, I recommend to do so behind a big research report of fraud, or catalyst like running out of cash, or if there is some particular insight that no one else knows. The companies that crashed most in 2000 or 2008 ran out of cash. Amazon raised enough cash that it didn't have to raise anymore -- and it ultimately recovered.

    I am not defending the crazy valuation or planning to hold for the long term. Yes, I know, famous last words. But I have seen more often it goes the other way. The most I lose in my small long position is my investment, and as I said, I am a bear and have index shorts. The world is upside down. Companies that can burn money and disrupt are rewarded because money is free, and the more you consume of free stuff, the fatter you can get. I am just pointing out the obvious for the last 10 years. Maybe it will crash badly. I hope so. Or maybe it can last another 10 years. Or any number in between.
     
    #353     Jun 10, 2019
  4. S2007S

    S2007S

    Bynd short info...

    Ludacris numbers


    Short interest stands at $814 million, or 5.87 million shares shorted, representing more than 50% of Beyond Meat’s float. Beyond Meat is the sixth-largest short bet in the domestic packaged foods and meat sector, but bears are down $574 million in mark-to-market losses as the shares keep climbing. The stock is up 570% from its May 2 initial-public-offering price of $25.
     
    #354     Jun 10, 2019
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Millenials hate real cows.
     
    #355     Jun 10, 2019
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  6. volente_00

    volente_00

    You have to work to invest and the majority of millenials are too lazy or too picky. Spoke to an 18 year old the other day and they said they can't find a first job because they want to make $15 an hour or would rather sit at home.
     
    #356     Jun 10, 2019
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  7. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    So what's next? FOMC is coming up next week.
     
    #357     Jun 14, 2019
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  8. S2007S

    S2007S

    Bynd

    Hahahah

    Now near $200... profitless company with way too much hype ...tried shorting again. No luck. Will do options at the open.
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2019
    #358     Jun 18, 2019
  9. S2007S

    S2007S

    Adding shorts and more short positions


    Talk of a possible rate cut?
    A possibility of a China deal?

    Haaaa
     
    #359     Jun 18, 2019
  10. bone

    bone

    Well, as a general rule - leaders of countries don't agree to meet under extraordinary circumstances unless there has been substantive progress towards resolving an issue. That's just standard statecraft.
     
    #360     Jun 18, 2019
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