the rules of coincidence; of interest to some

chasinfla · Sep 12, 2002

(AP) - On the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, a date often repeated as 9-11, the numbers that popped up for the New York Lottery were 9-1-1. <b>"The numbers were picked in the standard random fashion using all the same protocols," said Lottery spokeswoman Carolyn Hapeman. "It's just the way the numbers came up."</b>
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=DJ Was S&P Futures Close At 911 Tuesday Just A Coincidence?

By Kristina Zurla
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

CHICAGO (Dow Jones)--In an ironic twist, the September Standard & Poor's 500
futures contract closed Tuesday at 911.00 - a day ahead of the one-year anniversary
of the infamous terrorist attacks.
There was some buzz on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange stock index futures trading
floor Wednesday about why this occurred, but there were no reports of widespread
collusion or price-fixing going on.
<b> "It was bizarre, it was strange, but it wasn't manufactured," said Richard Canlione,
vice president of institutional financial futures at Salomon Smith Barney. "It
was just the rules of coincidence affecting open outcry trade. That's just where
the market was." </b>
While some CME traders reported there were notable offers to sell as the market
approached 912.00, anyone trying to force the market to actually print a settlement
of 911.00 exactly would face an extremely difficult task in a market so large,
and liquid.
"It just proves the market God was with us, remembering the day, too," said one
CME trader.
The start of trading was delayed Wednesday in honor of those killed in last year's
attacks that hit the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania.
Market players noted prices were already moving higher throughout Tuesday after
two prior up days, so it wasn't like an abrupt change in direction took place to
achieve the numerical equivalent of Sept. 11.
Some thought perhaps suspicious activity could have taken place, but most brushed
it off as a "patriotic rally" and didn't seem the harm in it.
"I'm always kinda paranoid, and I find the fact that we settled there kind of
eerie, but I don't think we should dwell on it or read too much into it," said
Tim Haefke, a stock index futures trader and president of Top-Notch Trading.

-By Kristina Zurla, Dow Jones Newswires; 312-750-4132;
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Of interest. bold mine.

futurecurrents · Sep 12, 2002

and last nights winning New York Lotto numbers were..........you guessed it... 911

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"Coincedence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and the pulleys."
- Emma Bull, Bone Dance

dotslashfuture · Sep 12, 2002

also HOV closed up $9.11 for the last 7 days at the close of 9/10. I wonder how many other stocks did similar things ? Collusion ? Can't prove it, so I guess we just laugh it off.

chasinfla · Sep 12, 2002

Can this stuff be rigged? I can see someone putting one last trade through on the Sept Spoo at 911.00; and if that's all it takes to settle it, and it's trading in the area, it might be an easy thing to do.

But the lottery?

In the article above, a person used the term 'the rules of coincidence.' I think that is very astute.

BruceF · Sep 12, 2002

And last year when Flight 587 crashed near JFK, 587 came up in the NJ lottery.

Cesko · Sep 13, 2002

Read Carl Jung's work on (so called) synchronicity.

Platypus · Sep 13, 2002

I don't want to sound like a weirdo..

But my life is filled with so much syncronicity that it is almost ridiculous

I understand the odds of coincidence, but jeez..

The study and paying attention to coincidence/syncronicity is a big hobby of mine.

an example/practice of mine: Every day I watch tv and surf the internet at the same time..

kind of silly, sure, but i noticed something a few years ago that caught my attention. Hearing a word spoken on tv and reading it at the same time. exact precision. my eye hits the word and it is said on tv at the same exact time. and not some word like "the" or "and"

Im talking "fruitful" "discretion" "combustion" "protuberance" etc..etc..

at least 4-5 times a day, and this has been going on for YEARS.

It has reached the point that i am currently in a phase of hearing the word ONE WORD before my eyes hit the written word. Its like a game, or an inside joke between me and syncronicity. its been this way for the last couple of months.

at this point you all think im nuts..
but i swear its true. i am a scientist at heart. i have a bullshit detector that could equal any..
just too many hits in a row, and too consistently...

Gordon Gekko · Sep 13, 2002

platypus,

that happens to me too. but then again, i almost always have the tv on when i use my computer..and i do use my comp. a lot. so day after day, it's bound to happen...although i agree that when it does happen, you're like HMMMM!

here is a big dose of coincidence for you...

today you happened to post your post and i read it. chasinfla's signature has the "let's roll" quote. TODAY the example you mentioned happened to ME. i had the tv on and heard "let's roll" as i saw chas's signature at the same time. the starter of this thread is chasinfla.

i still think it's just circumstance though..

aphexcoil · Sep 13, 2002

Platypus,

Pretty soon, you'll have a guy in a nice black suit convincing you that he's with the Secret Service and that he needs you to break some codes for the Government. Then you'll probably start seeing some old friends from college that were actually never at your old college.

Keep us posted on how the shock therapy helps you. Just remember to keep your tongue off any fillings in your mouth.

Platypus · Sep 13, 2002

a not so beautiful mind.. lol

but when it happens so consistently and so precicely, something in you goes "wait a second.." and then "uh huh.."

but when it changes phase so that you hear it one word before you read it, and that happens CONSISTENTLY, enough so that you feel like it is an inside joke lol then you go..
:eek: