The Rise and Fall of Mechanical Trading Systems

Discussion in 'Journals' started by DT-waw, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. emmm... mkay, but in your opening post you stated the following:

    "In my Journal i'm going to document, with a brutal logic and commitment! how mechanical trading systems do not work. I will be using live results and a 3rd party provider."

    It would appear you were referring to mechanical trading systems in general (including one would presume Winton's - which appear to have mostly been working for them), not just the public rubbish.

    Anyway, carry on, but as ArthurD correctly states, why waste your time on this garbage?
     
    #51     Dec 17, 2010
  2. DT, speaking of a waste of time, why are you even dialogueing with (justifiably) anonymous posters on ET? Don't you know who most of us are? Nobodies. Misfits. Liars. Delusional. Homebound. Nothing better to do. Nothing to offer. Like you, I'll make a wild-assed guess. Certainly no one here is making the big bucks. In nearly ten years here I have encountered fewer than ten people here whom I believed.
     
    #52     Dec 17, 2010
  3. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    i assume that observations from this journal can be very precious in sense that:

    if we will find at least 3 systems making new highs, 2, 4, 6 months from now, on top of new highs made in the past, while 357 other systems are flat or down, it will be a great lesson- what other systems are doing bad vs what these 3 winners are doing right?
     
    #53     Dec 17, 2010
  4. Wow, didn't realize there was such a love for mechanical systems. Flat out there, is a handful of idiots in the world that know how to trade. You think they're going to be sharing profitable systems?! Get real. I can't believe how many losers in here defended this type of thing. Trading isn't just programming a MA crossover dipshit. There's a general rule of thumb, you have to be 10 pct smarter than the object you're using....I have a feeling a handful of guys on here have a ways to go with that. Profitable systems aren't just magically extracted from someone's ass.
     
    #54     Dec 17, 2010
  5. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    and yes, most of the ETers are cheap wannabe millionaires.
    partly because they do not invest in Winton, Medallion, Transtrend or top performing systems.

    thats why it will be good to lift our poor status by finding quality systems to trade, right?
     
    #55     Dec 17, 2010
  6. Sorry, I don't know the source of the systems you refer to. Do you know their rules so you can make such a determination?
     
    #56     Dec 17, 2010
  7. Glad you could join the club
     
    #57     Dec 17, 2010
  8. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    its precisely what Winton, Transtrend, Lynx are doing!
    sharing great systems to trade for other people... with other peoples money. for a fraction of income.

    thats legitimate. while sharing systems online for a monthly fee is not legitimate. interesting logic.
     
    #58     Dec 17, 2010
  9. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    the rules of the winners (if they will turn out to be winners) would have to be, sort of, reverse engineered. or at least, just a general conclusions: frequency of trades, holding period, etc.
     
    #59     Dec 17, 2010
  10. Mine came from dreams. If that qualifies as out the ass.
     
    #60     Dec 17, 2010