The Right of Return

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 2cents, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_refugee_camps

    life in a refugee camp is hard to imagine, when all hope is lost, when you've lost everything and you have nowhere to rebuild, nowhere to go, 20 years, then forty, then some... suspended animation... when you realize one morning that death feels sweeter...

    and think what it does to kids who are born there...

    this is what we are breeding by allowing this to continue...

    suicide bombers? really? how come... i mean life's so fulfilling and full of promises back there in the refugee camp...
     
    #11     Jun 14, 2007
  2. 51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
    52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
    53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
    54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
    56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
    57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
    58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
    59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
    60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
    61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
    62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
    63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
    64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
    65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

    The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism:
    1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..."
    2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..."
    3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..."
    4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..."
    5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..."
    6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..."
    7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..."
    8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..."
    9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..."
    10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..."
    11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..."
    12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..."
    14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..."
    15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..."
    16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..."
    17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...."
    18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..."
    19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..."
    20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..."
    21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..."
    22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..."
    23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..."
    24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..."
    25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..."
    26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..."
    27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..."
    28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..."
    29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..."
    30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-

    YOU HAVE NO SHAME dddooo
     
    #12     Jun 14, 2007
  3. It's no less funny that the arab world that refused to abide by UN resolutions and recognize Israel, broke international laws multiple times, invaded Israel and committed thousands of war crimes and crimes against humanity, the same arab world is all of a sudden the biggest and loudest supporter of UN resolutions and international laws (but only those that are anti-Israel).

    PS The creation of Israel was not supervised by the UN, they did not move a finger when Israel was invaded by 7 arab armies in 1948. Ben Gurion pronounced the Declaration of the State of Israel, the jews, the Israelis, not the UN get the credit for the fact that Israel was created, survived and has become a modern western, prosperous liberal democracy.
     
    #13     Jun 14, 2007
  4. without huge amounts of US money & technology there would have been no Ben Gourion...
     
    #14     Jun 14, 2007
  5. come to think of it... whats the cost to the US taxpayer of allowing all this circus over all these years? anybody keeping count? cause... its not very productive to say the least...
     
    #15     Jun 14, 2007
  6. Here goes another lie!

    It seems that our friend dddooo does not care about his credibility and is throwing lies right left and center. In his previous post, he claimed that Arabs violated thousands of resolutions only to come to his senses and switch it to multiple after he figured that no one will belive such an outragious lie.

    Hey dddooo, I showed your ilegal entity's disregard to international laws by showing all of the UN reslutions that you broke. Please embaress me and show everyone in here what are the "multiple' times we broke international laws!
     
    #16     Jun 14, 2007
  7. Huh? From the invasion of Israel in 1948 to suicide attacks on Israeli citizens to execution of Hamas/Fatah fighters in Gaza streets to execution of so-called Israeli collaborators, to lynching of Israeli soldiers, to kidnappings of Israeli citizens... these are all violations of international laws.

    "GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) A witness says Hamas fighters have been dragging men out of a Fatah security installation in Gaza City and executing them in front of their wives and children."
    http://www.kxmc.com/News/133447.asp
     
    #17     Jun 14, 2007
  8. so where is the list of international laws and conventions that have been broken by an occupied people please?? why is it you can't provide a simple list of UN resolutions, ICC sentences etc??
     
    #18     Jun 14, 2007
  9. What part of my previous post did you not understand? Which illegal wars, illegal executions, illegal attacks on civilians, illegal treatment of captured Israeli soldiers do you think are in compliance with international laws? How many arab countries are in compliance with UN resolutions requiring them to recognize Israel, end the state of belligerency and guarantee secure and safe borders? Was the expulsion of 900,000 jews from arab lands in compliance with international laws, is Lebanon in compliance with UN resolutions calling for disarmament of Hezbollah? Oh, and surprise surprise, there's never been UN resolutions against suicide attacks on Israeli civilians so I suppose Hamas and Islamic Jihad are in full compliance, right?

    Here is just one example of international law-abiding "occupied people".
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    And here is a newsflash for you, if they did not break international laws in 1948, 1967 etc they would not be occupied today.

    PS As I said before I believe international laws are not worth the paper they are written on. It's people like you who are obsessing about them... but only when it comes to Israel and could not care less about international laws, human rights violations etc when they are committed by any other nation.
     
    #19     Jun 15, 2007
  10. Classic...

     
    #20     Jun 15, 2007