The repurcussions of nuking France

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MondoTrader, Feb 12, 2003.

  1. ......:cool:



    Is there going to be a duel??
     
    #41     Feb 14, 2003
  2. jester

    jester Guest

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    dGabriel,, having worked for a French owned company once....and personally experienced their extreme arrogance and body odor...I am amused by this piece of HISTORICAL FACT.....LOL

    :p
     
    #42     Feb 14, 2003
  3. msfe

    msfe

    DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF MAN AND OF THE CITIZEN

    Approved by the National Assembly of France, August 26, 1789.

    The representatives of the French people, organized as a National Assembly, believing that the ignorance, neglect, or contempt of the rights of man are the sole cause of public calamities and of the corruption of governments, have determined to set forth in a solemn declaration the natural, unalienable, and sacred rights of man, in order that this declaration, being constantly before all the members of the Social body, shall remind them continually of their rights and duties; in order that the acts of the legislative power, as well as those of the executive power, may be compared at any moment with the objects and purposes of all political institutions and may thus be more respected, and, lastly, in order that the grievances of the citizens, based hereafter upon simple and incontestable principles, shall tend to the maintenance of the constitution and redound to the happiness of all. Therefore the National Assembly recognizes and proclaims, in the presence and under the auspices of the Supreme Being, the following rights of man and of the citizen.

    Articles :

    1- Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good.

    2- The aim of all political association is the preservation of the natural and imprescriptible rights of man. These rights are liberty, property, security, and resistance to oppression.

    3- The principle of all sovereignty resides essentially in the nation. No body nor individual may exercise any authority which does not proceed directly from the nation.

    4- Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.

    5- Law can only prohibit such actions as are hurtful to society. Nothing may be prevented which is not forbidden by law, and no one may be forced to do anything not provided for by law.

    6- Law is the expression of the general will. Every citizen has a right to participate personally, or through his representative, in its foundation. It must be the same for all, whether it protects or punishes. All citizens, being equal in the eyes of the law, are equally eligible to all dignities and to all public positions and occupations, according to their abilities, and without distinction except that of their virtues and talents.

    7- No person shall be accused, arrested, or imprisoned except in the cases and according to the forms prescribed by law. Any one soliciting, transmitting, executing, or causing to be executed, any arbitrary order, shall be punished. But any citizen summoned or arrested in virtue of the law shall submit without delay, as resistance constitutes an offense.

    8- The law shall provide for such punishments only as are strictly and obviously necessary, and no one shall suffer punishment except it be legally inflicted in virtue of a law passed and promulgated before the commission of the offense.

    9- As all persons are held innocent until they shall have been declared guilty, if arrest shall be deemed indispensable, all harshness not essential to the securing of the prisoner's person shall be severely repressed by law.

    10- No one shall be disquieted on account of his opinions, including his religious views, provided their manifestation does not disturb the public order established by law.

    11- The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. Every citizen may, accordingly, speak, write, and print with freedom, but shall be responsible for such abuses of this freedom as shall be defined by law.

    12- The security of the rights of man and of the citizen requires public military forces. These forces are, therefore, established for the good of all and not for the personal advantage of those to whom they shall be intrusted.

    13- A common contribution is essential for the maintenance of the public forces and for the cost of administration. This should be equitably distributed among all the citizens in proportion to their means.

    14- All the citizens have a right to decide, either personally or by their representatives, as to the necessity of the public contribution; to grant this freely; to know to what uses it is put; and to fix the proportion, the mode of assessment and of collection and the duration of the taxes.

    15- Society has the right to require of every public agent an account of his administration.

    16- A society in which the observance of the law is not assured, nor the separation of powers defined, has no constitution at all.

    17- Since property is an inviolable and sacred right, no one shall be deprived thereof except where public necessity, legally determined, shall clearly demand it, and then only on condition that the owner shall have been previously and equitably indemnified.

    The above document was written by The Marquis de Lafayette, with help from his friend and neighbor, American envoy to France, Thomas Jefferson. Lafayette, you may recall, had come to the Colonies at age 19, been commissioned a Major General, and was instrumental in the defeat of the British during the American Revolutionary War. He considered one special man his 'father': George Washington.
     
    #43     Feb 14, 2003
  4. Great quote WILD....but you forget to mention how they turned millions of jews over to the evil nazi's in order to save their own ass....what cowards....
     
    #44     Feb 14, 2003
  5. The whole people in the world are stupid, frenches and you, mass manipulation by neo-nazis is so easy, it is just history that repeats itself, only with a bit different pattern but enough to make you blind ! So I will post over and over the history to remind some of you (those who don't want to be blind as for others if they are pro-nazis well can't do much for them )!

    http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

    "Chapter - II - The Hitler Project

    Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland `` Bunny '' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush.@s1 "

    It seems that americans are just muppets of british and german at least at that time:

    http://www.tarpley.net/bush1.htm


    "Prescott Goes to War
    President George Herbert Walker Bush was born in 1924, the son of Prescott S. Bush and Dorothy Walker Bush. We will begin the George Bush story about a decade before his birth, on the eve of World War I. We will follow the career of his father, Prescott Bush, through his marriage with Dorothy Walker, on the path to fortune, elegance and power.

    Prescott Bush entered Yale University in 1913. A native of Columbus, Ohio, Prescott had spent the last five years before college in St. George's Episcopal preparatory school in Newport, Rhode Island.

    Prescott Bush's first college year, 1913, was also the freshman year at Yale for E. Roland ( "Bunny" ) Harriman, whose older brother (Wm.) Averell Harriman had just graduated from Yale. This is the Averell Harriman who went on to fame as the U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union during World War II, as a governor of New York State, and as a presidential advisor who was greatly responsible for starting the Vietnam War.

    The Harrimans would become the sponsors of the Bushes, to lift them onto the stage of world history.

    In the spring of 1916, Prescott Bush and "Bunny" Harriman were chosen for membership in an elite Yale senior-year secret society known as Skull and Bones. This unusually morbid, death-celebrating group helped Wall Street financiers find active young men of "good birth" to form a kind of imitation British aristocracy in America.

    World War I was then raging in Europe. With the prospect that the U.S.A. would soon join the war, two Skull and Bones "Patriarchs" , Averell Harriman (class of 1913) and Percy A. Rockefeller (class of 1900), paid special attention to Prescott's class of 1917. They wanted reliable cadres to help them play the Great Game, in the lucrative new imperial era that the war was opening up for London and New York moneycrats. Prescott Bush, by then a close friend of "Bunny" Harriman, and several other Bonesmen from their class of 1917 would later comprise the core partners in Brown Brothers Harriman, the world's largest private investment bank.

    World War I did make an immense amount of money for the clan of stock speculators and British bankers who had just taken over U.S. industry. The Harrimans were stars of this new Anglo-American elite.

    Averell's father, stock broker E.H. Harriman, had gained control of the Union Pacific Railroad in 1898 with credit arranged by William Rockefeller, Percy's father, and by Kuhn Loeb & Co.'s British-affiliated private bankers, Otto Kahn, Jacob Schiff and Felix Warburg. "


     
    #45     Feb 14, 2003
  6. Just remark that everybody shuts up when history is so clear.
     
    #46     Feb 14, 2003


  7. ....Actually the only remark that i could think of was....WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???????

    where do you find this stuff? you and some of the others go around and 'search" the web and as long as it's on the "web" ,,,it's true....unless of course, it's a different opinion form yours..
     
    #47     Feb 14, 2003
  8. this is the real reason behind the war in iraq...Clinton is really to blame...read this link which is on the web so we KNOW it's true and is a FACT...this is why we need the missile protection in turkey

    www.presidentialufo.8m.com/clinton4.htm
     
    #48     Feb 14, 2003
  9. You got to open a new thread.
    Italy joins France and Germany. :D
     
    #49     Feb 14, 2003
  10. msfe

    msfe

    TM Direct:`Great quote WILD....but you forget to mention how they turned millions of jews over to the evil nazi's in order to save their own ass....what cowards....´

    what´s the point in mentioning the undisputable French holocaust involvement in the context of the declaration of human rights in 1789, 100 years before Hitler was born ?

    nevertheless, the subject as such is definitely well worth studying - here is my recommendation for a short introduction into the matter:

    France Under the Germans
    Vichy Law and the Holocaust in France
    Books of the Times
    Giving Collaboration a Bad Name
    by Richard Bernstein
    March 26, 1997

    `The extent and enthusiasm of French collaboration has been well known since the landmark 1981 study by Michael R. Marrus (who wrote a foreword to Weisberg's book) and Robert Paxton, "Vichy France and the Jews." That book established virtually beyond doubt that the Vichy government, set up under the 84-year-old military hero Henri-Philippe Petain after the German victory of June 1940, went well beyond even what the Germans required of it in its persecution of Jews. In all, 75,000 Jews were deported from France during the war, most of them seized by French policemen. Only a couple thousand returned.´

    http://www.amgot.org/weisbern.htm
     
    #50     Feb 14, 2003