Still can't figure out what's wrong with raping a child, huh? Still have to make sure that the rapist's right are protected, huh? Fuck you. Answer to Mav's point about the glaring contradiction in your 'position' that he elucidated. Now, asshole. Which is it - moral relativity or a Utopian dream?
Z won't address his logical contradictions because he can't. He also will not acknowledge the slavery argument because he is intellectually dishonest. Slavery was once the law of the land in some states in the US, but because people outside those states judged it to be wrongheaded it was ended. If slavery was legal today in Europe, Z would tell us in the states that it's not our place to have an opinion about it. What can one say to that but it's just plain stupid. The dog analogy is logically disconnected and weak, you have great diffficulty in constructing analogies as well. Get your money back. I don't know, I guess you have no reading comprehesion. I told you why radical Islam is important to evaluate. Looking the other way and not judging sex with ten year olds is sick. This transcends laws and cultures. There is substantial medical evidence that it is a perverted and harmful practice. I don't claim any sort of perfection at all, and I make no claims of overall superiority, but I judge this one act to be barbaric and primitive. To not understand that takes the intellect of a child.
This one is an instant classic, Z said these two things within sentences of each other. Reposted for laughs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The laws reflect the values and morals of the primary culture... ....The law doesn't differentiate between the primary or sub cultures, it is blind to the culture aspect --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Z won't address his logical contradictions because he can't. He also will not acknowledge the slavery argument because he is intellectually dishonest. Slavery was once the law of the land in some states in the US, but because people outside those states judged it to be wrongheaded it was ended. If slavery was legal today in Europe, Z would tell us in the states that it's not our place to have an opinion about it. What can one say to that but it's just plain stupid. The slavery issue was a country issue, happening within American borders. It was a country's internal struggle which came about slowly as the country evolved. We did not fight a civil war because another country had abolished slavery and judged us as uncivilized. It took a civil war, but America decided that slavery was wrong in America and made it illegal. Slavery still exists in many parts of our world today... So what is your point again? We came to a conclusion through great effort to abolish slavery. Our own conclusions. The end of slavery was our doing internally, not because a more advanced civilization opinioned or moralized us into to... If another country had invaded the US and tried to abolish slavery in the late 18th century, how do you think Americans would have taken to that? America is great when it sets great examples, and America is at its worst when it judges the actions of other countries even while it is unable to fix its own messes. The dog analogy is logically disconnected and weak, you have great diffficulty in constructing analogies as well. Get your money back. And you have great (sic) "diffficulty" using a spell checker... Very, very fffunny... Get your money back... I don't know, I guess you have no reading comprehesion. I told you why radical Islam is important to evaluate. Oh, so you have told me... Gee, it must be horrible for you when people don't agree with you simply because you told them so... Looking the other way and not judging sex with ten year olds is sick. Who is looking the "other" way? I spend my time looking to the flaws of America first and foremost... Fix our culture first would be a lovely way to lead the world. This transcends laws and cultures. There is substantial medical evidence that it is a perverted and harmful practice. Medical evidence that it is perverted? LOL!!! If you want to see real "medical evidence of perversion" look to America and the foods filled with chemicals, the drugs Americans take and their side effects, the levels of obesity, the pollution we dump into our air, water, and land....now there is a real perversion of nature that has a medical consequence if I ever saw one. We could focus our attention on our own problems here at home, clean up our act...but of course that would require that we change our own culture...so what do people do? They focus on other cultures as a means to avoid dealing with their own problems. As long as a person is focusing on and judging another country for what they perceive as wrong, the less they are looking to their own culture and their own problems that need to be fixed first. But then regressive really don't want to improve our country... I don't claim any sort of perfection at all, and I make no claims of overall superiority, but I judge this one act to be barbaric and primitive. And when other countries look to our death penalty which they have outlawed as being primitive and barbaric you think that's a great thing that they judge us so, because it makes us want to improve and change, right? When other countries point to our gun violence and other problems, you say "Thanks for pointing that out...after all it is your job to judge us and help us to evolved. Thanks so much, because it is good for one culture to judge another culture's behavior."
There have been so many like this over the years, it's hard to keep track. One other thing I've noticed. When the AssHat Troll posts something really stupid (like this) and gets called out for it, the response is usually a long, rambling confused post like the one directly above. It seems that its response to being shown to be in contradiction of itself is to just spew forth a bunch of crapola and physically move the offending post into the background. Nice job here Mav. We should make sure we have the links just for future reference. hap, it's the Pathetic Alcoholic Troll ZZZ at his finest - you catching any of this?
Nik, none of this comes as a surprise. The ZZZtroll is doing what it does best - obfuscating, evading, and generally spouting bullshit. The thread-starting spree it is on tells me it is on a heck of a bender, and one that is most likely compounded by immense sexual frustration. There are truths that are self-evident. Raping 10-year-olds is one of them, and obvious to any civilized, reasonable person. That the Zzztroll continues to debate this basic point is testament not only to its troll nature, but its depravity as well. This all strengthens my conviction that the troll has pedophile tendencies. If anyone were to wager that Zzztroll vacations in the Middle East or other regions where the "primary culture" does not frown on the rape of children, I wouldn't like to take the other side of that bet.
If another country had invaded the US and tried to abolish slavery in the late 18th century, how do you think Americans would have taken to that? I didn't say to invade anybody, I said to judge their actions you moron. This entire thread is about you claiming it's wrong to sit in judgment. There was no discussion of military intervention. The USA has plenty of problems, no disagreement there. The rest of the world can and does criticize us, and that's fine. I don't agree with some or all, but it's just politics. Anybody that could laugh off the evidence that adult men screwing ten year old girls is bad for the girl is probably a pedophile himself. I am suddenly creeped out by you. I hope you get busted in a pedophile/child porn sting someday, I mean that one sincerely.
<i>"This all strengthens my conviction that the troll has pedophile tendencies."</i> <i>"Anybody that could laugh off the evidence that adult men screwing ten year old girls is bad for the girl is probably a pedophile himself."</i> I'm not sure whether you guys are entirely serious, but it <i>would</i> in fact explain a lot. A couple years back in a chit chat T&A pic thread, I posted this one: <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2275564> She may look a bit jailbait-ish, but the photo came straight off one of Larry Flynt's fine publications, which should remove all doubt regarding her legal age status. Does anyone remember how LoZZZer ascended his self-righteous soapbox, preaching how <i>I'm</i> sick for posting a chick who might not be old enough? Never mind the sheer hypocrisy- that's hardly new. My point is: The troll doth protest too much, methinks.
U B workin hard on a Sunday to keep the fantasy troll defense alive... Tell you what, if your parole violation matter has not come to a decree by the judge yet, show the judge how honest you are by telling the judge what you think of the drug laws, the legal system, how unrepentant you are, how you are into teenage sluts, how you threaten violence to those who don't agree with you on anonymous message boards, etc., etc., etc. LMAO... Survival will kick in and U B lying & contrite to save U azz... Now that's a real hypocrisy down to your soul...not some nonsense on a message board. There is reality, then there are anonymous message boards, then there are those blithering idiots who think they are the same thing...
Shiiiit.... In that case, I wish you could have been there when the Feds interrogated me. I keeps it real, yo! I believe the DEA dude's exact response was: "Oppressor? Now, that's somewhat different. I mean, I've had plenty of perps call me an 'asshole' or a 'motherfucker'- but oppressor? Yup, that's definitely a new one." Why didn't I put on an act to try in vain to save my own ass? Well, remember the Middle Eastern mentality I've repeatedly tried to explain here; how a man's honor comes before all else? You can't live out there for ten years and not have some of that rub off on you...