The Put Seller's Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by earth_imperator, Jul 16, 2022.

  1. #101     Oct 13, 2022
  2. #102     Oct 13, 2022
  3. None of the "Elite Traders" here has been able to answer this question, so far:
    The worldwide idiocracy, maybe caused by the covid vaxxing :), seems has now reached even ET :) Cf. the thread of that posting: only childish joke replies...
     
    #103     Oct 16, 2022
  4. In case you wondered what "rolling an option" practically means:

    It's mostly used with calendar and diagonal spreads (ie. where 2 (or even more) different DTEs gets used):
    When the shorter DTE expires then you will be left with the other leg, ie. the longer DTE.
    You now have 3 choices you could undertake:
    1) Just keep the remaining leg, ie. do nothing.
    2) Close the remaning leg.
    3) Replace the just expired one with a new similar one in functionality, so that the other remaining leg continues its intended initial function (as a supporting leg for the other main leg). This replacement itself is called "rolling an option" :)

    The more general definition is:
    Any replacement of an option by a similar one, but of course with a new expiration date, is called rolling.
    Ie. one renews/"extends" the remaining time of the option.
    Usually done with shortselling to sell a new, similar option to collect new (additional) premium.
     
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    #104     Oct 16, 2022
  5. #105     Oct 18, 2022
  6. ffs1001

    ffs1001

    It's because you are at a level WAY beyond any of us. After all, in the last few posts, you have explained the incredibly complex topic of what "rolling" is; you've explained how to prevent IV risk, and what Put selling involves. Wow. Just wow. Most of us here had no idea what all these things meant, until your wonderfully clear and concise posts clarified things. Your explanations have been like sunlight shining through dark clouds.
    For that, I will forever be grateful to you. I feel like you are my mentor in a way, and I feel guilty that I am learning so many incredible things from your journal, and not being able to give something back to you.

    Can you pls - if you have time in your busy schedule - pls explain what a Call option is and how it is different from a Put option? If I buy a call, is it the same as selling a put? Or if I bought a put from you, does that mean that you are now short a call? It's all so confusing.

    Many thanks in advance for your continued education.
     
    #106     Oct 18, 2022
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  7. #107     Oct 18, 2022
  8. There are better sources (books, wikipedia, web etc.) that can explain Calls and Puts.
    LongCall and ShortPut are both bullish.
    If your ShortPut loses than you are obliged to buy the underlying stock.
    If your LongCall loses then you don't need to do anything, ie. no further obligation.

    Here you can find info as well study all variations of Call and Put:
    https://optioncreator.com/long-call
    https://optioncreator.com/short-call
    https://optioncreator.com/long-put
    https://optioncreator.com/short-put
     
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    #108     Oct 18, 2022
  9. ATTN retail "scalpers" and "HFT traders": a limit of 390 orders placed per day for non-professionals (retail traders):

    It seems there is an exchange trading rule (or law?) that says that a non-professional (retail trader)
    is someone who during a calendar month does not make any more than 390 orders placed per day on average.
    I guess modifications (changes) of an order are counted as well.
    Otherwise he/she can be designated as a professional trader (which then incurs higher fees etc.)

    Source: https://cdn.cboe.com/resources/membership/Cboe_US_Equities_Retail_Priority.pdf
    See also https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...nipulative-trading.370292/page-3#post-5698803
     
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    #109     Oct 19, 2022
  10. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    This is correct. 390 option orders per day is one a minute. That is generally a lot for a manual trader, but I do monitor my active option clients to help them stay under the 390. If you breach that in any month, for an entire quarter you are tagged at "Professional". You lose your customer priority status on the option books, lose access to most option smart routes and are then subject to higher option exchange fees more in line with market makers and broker dealers. As an example, if a trading month has 21 trading days, that is 8190 option orders you want to stay under. Every order counts. With regard to option spreads orders, a complex order of eight legs or fewer counts as a single order. Nine or more, they count each leg as one order.

     
    #110     Oct 19, 2022
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