Lets keep this discussion civil and on topic. There is no need to take a personal shot at another member of elite trader using inflamatory words like warped, pathetic, etc. If you disagree with someone's posts.......great argue the counter-point, discuss what you think is wrong with it, etc, but lets not let things digress to point where were name calling and going after the poster instead of the point of discussion. Thanks.
i hear you Avalanche, and as you will perhaps have noted - you may not have since your intervention here focusses on form and the thread is rather long now - i have provided substantial on-topic counterarguments and substantiated on-topic opinions all along this thread, which you may or may not agree with, but then that's your right as a person, but what are we to do with posters who make such claims: then faced with hard data on page 8, simply asserts that the US Public Debt Office figures are fraudulent, cooked! Are we accusing the US Public Debt Office of fraud!!! is it more OK than ad hominem characterizations of the poster himself being a proven intellectual fraud? and brushes off any solid data-based argument against his many times repeated point: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62735&perpage=6&pagenumber=9 then, piqued, (but hey, if you look back, he is the one who grandiosely denounces the "weakness of the counterarguments presented by you and other posters" )... goes on at length about how a historical occurence of hyperinflation (weimar) is a relevant point of comparison to today's situation on the basis that there is a causative link between a high debt/gdp ratio and hyperinflation and "we have seen the beginnings of hyperinflation", which i argue it clearly isn't, relevant... also resorts to outright lies, fabrication of claims, and other warped-type reformulations etc as a dialectic tactic: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1119420#post1119420 http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1120122#post1120122 http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1119638#post1119638 my point here is that the poster will resort to absolutely ANYTHING to wiggle out of the hole he has made for himself pretending he has done ample / serious research when he simply hasn't - and his last post couldn't better show how little he understands about the subject - and will not hesitate misleading the less-informed reader into accepting any sort of outright propaganda that serves his purposes / conforms to his OPINIONS. with all due respect for you and the mods in general and the vital function(s) you guys perform on this board, on substance now, is this the sort of attitudes you would want to encourage on this board, Avalanche?
The latest batch of accusations made against me, by 2cents in this thread, are lies and are filled with false information. He inaccurately described my statements, and he attributed to me many statements which I did not make at all. He falsely accused me of laziness, lies, fraud, fabricated claims, and failure to do research. He accused me of "vehemential denegations", by which I think he meant vehement denigrations, which is also a false accusation. He falsely accused me of failing to provide supporting evidence for certain of my statements, when in fact, I did provide support for those particular statements. I used certain words about the "beginnings of hyperinflation", which were misunderstood, so I later clarified them, but he is spreading confusion by continuing to quote my original misunderstood words, while ignoring my subsequent clarification. This type of off-topic personal attack has continued and intensified through most of the thread. It has increasingly interfered with my ability to participate in the thread, because it makes me spend so much time responding to an endless campaign of false accusations, and I think it has intimidated others and driven them away from the discussion. I suggest that people who want to see a serious adult discussion of the thread topic, rather than a discussion attacking the people involved in the discussion, should complain to the moderator, Avalanche. If you go to the latest posting by 2cents, and click on the complain button toward the bottom of his post, a window will open, allowing you to send a brief message to the moderator, where you can complain that 2cents continues to interfere with the discussion, and to disobey the public warning he already received from Avalanche just yesterday in this thread.
click on his name, you´ll be taken to a menu, then click on add user to my ignore list. It works wonders.
Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't solve my problem. My problem is not that I must read what he says. My problem is that he makes false statements about me to the rest of the board, which interfere with my ability to communicate with the rest of the board. My failure to read and to deny his accusations, and my silence upon them, would be misinterpreted as admission they are true. The ignore feature won't solve this problem.
Usually when you dont answer to someone who´s making such accusations he tends to shut up after some time. It just isn´t fun to insult someone if you cant get em to fight... kind of a Ghandi approach.
i am not fighting... nor am i actually 'insulting' anybody... i am just stating a fact (kind of a ghandi approach if you like ;-) )... of course everybody is free to prefer opinions to facts...
Avalanche, just an opinion of course, but: . the OP's article is a simplistic piece of political propaganda . the ensuing discussion is at the core one of fact vs opinion . serious econometric data from the US Public Debt Bureau is dubbed "fraudulent, cooked" by some random poster, serious econometric-type assessments from the CEPR are similarly ignored, to the benefit of some dialectical cum historical materialism type brainwash What is it achieving for ET that this thread should still be sitting in the Economics section really? Isn't Chit Chat MADE for that?