The problem with trying to legislate a free market

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Maverickz, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. I don't have to. The law did not mandate that they do so, and no one gives away free money.

    The only way that price would come down is if the retailers thought they could use that to increase demand. The reality is with the debit transaction cost, the price of the various items were probably only increased by $0.01 (one cent) per item. If Wal-Mart lowered the cost of everything in the store by one cent, do you think that would really increase demand? Do you think people would be all "Woohoo! I can save 1 cent on toothpaste and canned goods, I better go stock up now!"? No of course not. So why would Wal-Mart reduce the price after Dodd-Frank? They wouldn't. They would be stupid to do so.
     
    #21     Oct 4, 2011
  2. Let's see: the more regulations we add the worse things gets. The US was the strongest when we made everything and sold it to other countries. Now with government driving manufacturing overseas we are the buyers not the sellers. Sorry i don't see that I have it backwards.

    The only way out of this mess to make the US more friendly to businesses not less.
     
    #22     Oct 4, 2011
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Sadly there is no way for the U.S. to become more friendly to business. It is already the most business friendly country the world has ever known. In fact, business controls the government. Can you perhaps give some suggestions on how it could be even more business friendly. ( Maybe exempt any business from all laws. That might do it, and that would be extremely helpful because Gates could kill what's his name who is head of Apple, or vice versa , and it would be good for business, we don't care. Kill who you may I say, whatever helps business.)
     
    #23     Oct 4, 2011
  4. big business loves regulation. it keeps smaller competitors at bay.

    when i ran a business the thing i feared most was some fly by nighter coming in with with illegal labor and no benefits undercutting my prices.

    my employees were like family to me. i wanted to provide them a good workplace with benefits a good wage. i never feared competitors who also felt the same way but employers who treated employees like dirt could undercut me and steal my customers. i would have loved to see regulations that forced an even business enviroment.
    do you want to work for a company or live in a country where they are in a race to the bottom?
     
    #24     Oct 4, 2011
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    Well said!
     
    #25     Oct 4, 2011
  6. jprad

    jprad

    The only problem with your argument is that this "source of revenue" was bogus from the start.

    Government fucked up by not forcing banks to rebundle their services back into our checking and savings accounts the way it used to be. Fully burden my account up front and tell me how much it will cost or how much I have to deposit into order to bypass that cost.

    Through the "miracle" of fractional reserve lending they're making plenty of money with our cash that's deposited with them. To turn around and charge us again, either directly with fees or indirectly via merchant fees, to use our money is a complete crock of shit.
     
    #26     Oct 4, 2011
  7. Agreed. ZIRP ensures that there is essentially no return on the money deposited and then a whole slew of fees attached to the account. It really is just a better deal to just keep the money under the mattress.
     
    #27     Oct 4, 2011
  8. jprad

    jprad

    If we ever get to the point where all banks charge us to use our money, then I'd agree.

    But, for now anyway, there are alternatives.

    Get a good credit card that gives you something back for making purchases, but you have to have the discipline to pay it in full each month.

    Only use your debit card the way it used to be when they first came on the scene; as an ATM card to get cash.

    Put your cash in an interest bearing account that lets you write checks against it and make sure your balance is high enough to not incur monthly fees.

    It's work, even a pain in the ass, but it's still doable.
     
    #28     Oct 4, 2011