The Presidential Debates

Tsing Tao · Oct 1, 2020

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Debates commission plans to cut off mics if Trump or Biden break rules
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/presidential-debates-rules-changes-cutting-microphones/

The commission that oversees the general election presidential debates said Wednesday it will be making changes to the format of the remaining two debates. One key change it plans to implement: Cutting off the microphones of President Trump and Joe Biden if they break the rules, according to a source familiar with the commission's deliberations. The plans have not been finalized and the commission is still considering how it would carry out the plan.

The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Tuesday's face-off between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, which was marred by frequent interruptions by the president and mud-slinging.

In a statement following the presidential debate in Cleveland, Ohio, the first of three scheduled in the run-up to the general election, the commission said the event "made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues."

The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly," the organization said. "The Commission is grateful to Chris Wallace for the professionalism and skill he brought to last night's debate and intends to ensure that additional tools to maintain order are in place for the remaining debates."

An informed source told CBS News' Norah O'Donnell the commission will spend the next 48 hours determining new guidelines and rules for the second debate. The organization is working on all possible solutions, but the source said that "we are going to be making changes."

At the top of the list is controlling the two candidates' microphones and their ability to interrupt one another and the moderator. The campaigns will be informed of the rules, but the source said the rules will not be subject to negotiation.

For the next debate, which is a town hall, there will be only 15-20 people in the hall asking questions.

Tim Murtaugh, communications director for the Trump campaign, criticized the commission for the forthcoming measures.

"They're only doing this because their guy got pummeled last night," he said in a statement. "President Trump was the dominant force and now Joe Biden is trying to work the refs. They shouldn't be moving the goalposts and changing the rules in the middle of the game."

Kate Bedingfield, deputy campaign manager for Biden's campaign, said the former vice president is ready for the next contest in Miami.

"The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly," the organization said. "The Commission is grateful to Chris Wallace for the professionalism and skill he brought to last night's debate and intends to ensure that additional tools to maintain order are in place for the remaining debates."

An informed source told CBS News' Norah O'Donnell the commission will spend the next 48 hours determining new guidelines and rules for the second debate. The organization is working on all possible solutions, but the source said that "we are going to be making changes."

At the top of the list is controlling the two candidates' microphones and their ability to interrupt one another and the moderator. The campaigns will be informed of the rules, but the source said the rules will not be subject to negotiation.

For the next debate, which is a town hall, there will be only 15-20 people in the hall asking questions.

Tim Murtaugh, communications director for the Trump campaign, criticized the commission for the forthcoming measures.

"They're only doing this because their guy got pummeled last night," he said in a statement. "President Trump was the dominant force and now Joe Biden is trying to work the refs. They shouldn't be moving the goalposts and changing the rules in the middle of the game."

Kate Bedingfield, deputy campaign manager for Biden's campaign, said the former vice president is ready for the next contest in Miami.

"He'll be focused on answering questions from the voters there, under whatever set of rules the Commission develops to try to contain Donald Trump's behavior," she said in a statement. "The president will have to choose between responding to voters about questions for which he has offered no answers in this campaign — or repeating last night's unhinged meltdown."

Tuesday night's debate was broken into six 15-minute segments on specific topics. Each candidate was supposed to have two minutes to speak at the beginning of each segment, with the remainder of the time up for grabs. But it quickly spiraled into chaos as moderator and "Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace attempted to press the two candidates on issues including the coronavirus crisis, the Supreme Court and the economy.

His efforts to restore order to the debate, however, were made more difficult by Mr. Trump's frequent interruptions of both Biden and Wallace, and policy discussions were drowned out by name-calling and personal attacks leveled by both presidential candidates.

Biden called Mr. Trump the "worst president America has ever had," a "clown" and told him to "shut up," while the president made unfounded claims about the Democratic presidential nominee's son, Hunter Biden, told the former vice president "there's nothing smart about you" and refused to categorically denounce white supremacists.

The chaos of the first debate raised questions as to the effectiveness of the additional two scheduled for October. The second presidential debate is slated for October 15 in Miami, followed by the third and final debate set for October 22 in Nashville.
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Trump, his campaign manager, and anyone else in his campaign including anyone who supports him who is against civil debate and giving both candidates equal uninterrupted time to express their viewpoints for the American people are completely insane.

Nine_Ender · Oct 1, 2020

Tsing Tao said:
Trump, his campaign manager, and anyone else in his campaign including anyone who supports him who is against civil debate and giving both candidates equal uninterrupted time to express their viewpoints for the American people are completely insane.
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I think it's important to realize that on some level Trump is not a rational person. Rules are made for other people who exist to further him in his life.

Buy1Sell2 · Oct 1, 2020

Tsing Tao · Oct 1, 2020

Nine_Ender said:
I think it's important to realize that on some level Trump is not a rational person. Rules are made for other people who exist to further him in his life.
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I'd be inclined to agree, though I would caution that if you don't understand someone's goal fully - it is difficult to know what is truly rational. We just what is rational by our own perspective.

piezoe · Oct 1, 2020

Tsing Tao said:
Piezoe, are you going to give me an example of things he said - direct quotes or video - that have led you to classify the man as a White Supremacist?

Or are you going to dance around the question like you tend to do when backed into a corner on something you feel but cannot prove.
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No, of course not. Where have you been. Oh, I forgot you work for a living. Anyway, the media has been quoting that JACKASS White Supremacist continually since the shitshow otherwise known as a "debate". Plenty of time for you to tune in on the quotes. He and his Daddy were not fined for housing discrimination because they wouldn't rent to white folks! What do you think Trumps campaign message to his red-hats claiming "Biden is going to destroy your suburbs; they're will be no more suburbs!" is all about. You can't be that dense, can you? Remember gangsters like trump don't say, "I want this guy dead." They say, "I wouldn't mind if something unfortunate happened to that guy."

"Donald Trump talks in code." -- Michael Cohen

Tsing Tao · Oct 1, 2020

piezoe said:
No, of course not. Where have you been. Oh, I forgot you work for a living. Anywhay theu have been quoting that JACKASS White Supremacist all morning on radio and TV and probably will be until something more sensational comes along. Tune in for the quotes.
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Uh, yeah.

WeToddDid2 · Oct 1, 2020

smallfil · Oct 1, 2020

Tsing Tao said:
Trump, his campaign manager, and anyone else in his campaign including anyone who supports him who is against civil debate and giving both candidates equal uninterrupted time to express their viewpoints for the American people are completely insane.
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There is always an unequal playing field when the moderator should be only acting as a referee and not siding with anyone. Take this last debate, unless you missed it, Chris Wallace cut Donald Trump's rebuttal to 1 minute after he allowed Joe Biden to take for 2 minutes? He should not even have that discretion. To show, everyone is fair including, the moderators, super impose a clock under both Joe Biden and Donald Trump set for 2 minutes with an automatic microphone shutdown. That will end some of the BS of the moderators, not the BS, one sided, gotcha questions only reserved for Donald Trump.

Cuddles · Oct 1, 2020

NeoTrader · Oct 2, 2020

Tsing Tao said:
My wife was born considerably before Perestroika. She waited in lines to get toiletries and other necessities. She has an old "CCCP" passport. She had to join the "Young Pioneers". Her mother worked for the Party. You're saying that wasn't Communism?
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"The USSR regime wasn't communism, but fascism is definitely present in the U.S. to the point that justifies the existence of a group that calls itself "Antifascist" and the president of the United States is a Fascist White supremacist."

I really admire you for your patience in still talking to retards that believe this kind of idiocy.