The Polls - Is Trump Winning even without the Algo

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jul 27, 2016.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Most polls were incorrect at this point in 2012. Romney had the lead according to many polls. So much so that Romney took the weekend and Monday off because he thought he had won. The LA times poll (formerly Rand) had Obama correctly ahead and was within .5 % of the final tally.
     
    #781     Nov 5, 2016
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Don't know who will win but you cherry pick and revise history like most libs tend to do.
     
    #782     Nov 5, 2016
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark



    I count Obama ahead in more polls than Romney.


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    #783     Nov 5, 2016
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    17 polls-----8 show Obama ahead. Typical lib spin of info.
     
    #784     Nov 5, 2016
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    And only 3 show Romany ahead,but you said

    "Most polls were incorrect at this point in 2012. Romney had the lead according to many polls."


    More polls had Obama ahead Of Romney and more polls had Obama ahead than tied.Your statement that most polls were incorrect is incorrect.While Romney had the lead in 3 polls it wasn't most polls and I wouldn't call 3 many out of 17.
     
    #785     Nov 5, 2016
  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    These polls were the final polls and were certainly not all the polls. However, the LA Times Poll was tracking Obama in the lead at about the right margin around this time and prior. The point is that as you can see , the RCP average of polls was off more than 2percent, so, my contention is that polls are somewhat to be taken with a grain of salt except in the area of trend. --And the current trend is in the direction of Trump. We don't know if it will be enough to win and you don't know that Hillary will win. You just don't. In fact CNN has moved 4 states today in the direction of Trump either making them lean republican or moved from lean dem to tossup. Trend right now is Trump. --Izzy
     
    #786     Nov 5, 2016
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    You said polls at this point so I picked polls from 10-25 to 11-5.Out of all 2012 RCP polls Obama is ahead in most of them.RCP average was off as they underestimated Obama like they are underestimating Hillary now.
     
    #787     Nov 5, 2016
  8. Mtrader

    Mtrader

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    #788     Nov 5, 2016
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Trend is what is important in reading polls. Poll are trending toward Donald Trump. Whether or not it will be enough to win is not yet known. Whether Hillary or Donald has been underestimated is not able to be determined at this point in time.
     
    #789     Nov 5, 2016
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    LA Times Poll trended further in Trumps direction today and is now outside the area of uncertainty as their methodology describes it. I don't know if it's a good poll or not. I do know that it was right and much more so than RCP last time, and I do know that it is trending in the direction of Donald Trump. That's the important info.--Izzy
     
    #790     Nov 5, 2016