The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    What has happened since the shutdown genius?
     
    #581     Jun 19, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again you need to review the 5 points on why a lockdown is necessary to address a novel pandemic.

    New Zealand has totally eliminated COVID-19 in short period of time by using a proper public strategy involving a lock-down with proper testing & contact tracing. New Zealand is now totally open -- and has endured much less of an economic impact than other nations.
     
    #582     Jun 19, 2020
  3. jem

    jem

    were those your five after the fact bullshit points?

    You need to review that the shutdown was sold to flatten curve with respect to hospital beds.

    no one but morons thought we could eliminate Covid in this country with that type of shutdown.

    The fact Fauci warned about it proof it was not expected to make Covid go away.




     
    #583     Jun 19, 2020
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    it appears that you need to be educated about the 5 points again... these have been previously posted many weeks ago when I first provided information about COVID-19 on ET. The lock-down was never sold to only "flatten curve with respect to hospital beds". You only chose to latch on this individual point to drive your misguided political agenda while ignoring all the other clearly provided reasons for implementing a lock-down.

    Let's review the 5 points of why a lock-down period is necessary again:

    1) To prevent the overloading of hospital resources - where the number of COVID-19 patients is greater than capacity to treat them.
    2) To provide time to obtain the necessary number of COVID-19 test kits and get a testing process in place to meet the necessary capacity for re-opening.
    3) To get proper Contact Tracing in place for COVID-19 prior to re-opening. This includes getting the necessary systems in place and getting people hired for the positions.
    4) To reduce the effective infection rate (R) to below 0.8 in a community before opening.
    5) To reduce the total number of infections in the community to reduce the number of vector starting points when re-opening that must be traced and quarantined.


    We are facing a novel pandemic with no vaccine and no effective drug treatment. The steps to re-open include a 60 day lock-down period followed by a phased reopening with clear entry & exit criteria for each stage. This is the best possible balance of public health, mental health, and the economy. There is tremendous economic risk if the states re-open to early since an immediate follow-up wave of the pandemic would take the economy down for many more months than doing it right the first time.
     
    #584     Jun 19, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    I believe you are lying your ass off about some of those points.

    so lets do this methodically.

    1. When did you first post that?

    2. Show us where Fauci said those things back when this shutdown was pitched before the shutdown began.


    If you don't answer it will be clear you are full of shit about the reasons for the lockdown. And don't tell us to go find it out for ourselves or search for you posts.

    you made the statement now prove it.

     
    #585     Jun 19, 2020
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    You can easily go search when I first posted this many weeks ago.... along with supporting information released by public health agencies.
     
    #586     Jun 19, 2020
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  7. jem

    jem

    as predicted

    we may conclude you were lying again.

     
    #587     Jun 19, 2020
  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Jem is very much throwing his toys out as he has met his match now across multiple threads on this subject. Black hole meets it's Waterloo.
     
    #588     Jun 19, 2020
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Any rational person can use search and go back & read my previous posts on the subject. I will allow rational people who are interested in he subject to do so & determine who is correct.
     
    #589     Jun 19, 2020
  10. jem

    jem

    I could find any such post about 5 points and effective R0s of .8 anytime close the beginning of shutdown.

    Which is why you should just cut your bullshit.



     
    #590     Jun 19, 2020