The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ronavirus-infections-is-not-inevitable-we-can
    Fauci says second wave of coronavirus infections is 'not inevitable': 'We can prevent this'


    Anthony Fauci, the nation's top expert on infectious diseases, said Wednesday that a second wave of coronavirus infections is "not inevitable" if people are vigilant about proper mitigation efforts.

    "We often talk about the the possibility of a second wave, or of an outbreak when you’re reopening," Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a key member of the White House coronavirus task force, said on CNN. "We don’t have to accept that as an inevitability."

    "And particularly when people start thinking about the fall. I want people to really appreciate that, it could happen but it is not inevitable," he added.

    Last month, Fauci had said in multiple interviews that a second wave of COVID-19 was indeed unavoidable.

    "It’s inevitable that the coronavirus will return next season. ... When it does, how we handle it, will determine our fate,” he told NBC News.


    Fauci and other health experts have repeatedly voiced caution about plans to allow nonessential businesses and other public venues to reopen, stressing that widespread testing availability and a comprehensive contact-tracing program need to be in place.

    On Wednesday, he said he was encouraged by the progress states and the federal government were making in that regard.

    "I’m feeling better about it as we go by with the weeks that go by, and we see that we’re getting more and more capability of testing,” he said, adding that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has built a stronger workforce to help with "identification, isolation, and contact tracing."

    “People who are out there frolicking need to realize that when you do that, and you see no negative effect in one week, please don’t be overconfident because the effect of spreading is not going to be seen for two, three, maybe even more weeks,” Dr. Anthony Fauci says. pic.twitter.com/jLp7ZdWI8w

    — CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) May 27, 2020
    "If we do the kinds of things that we’re putting in place now, to have the workforce, the system, and the will to do the kinds of things that are the clear and effective identification, isolation and contact tracing, we can prevent this second wave that we’re talking about, if we do it correctly," he continued.

    As of Wednesday morning, the U.S. had reported 1.6 million confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, and roughly 99,000 deaths from it, according to a Johns Hopkins University database.

    The pandemic caused state leaders to institute stay-at-home orders, leading to a mass closure of schools and nonessential businesses. Most states have begun gradually lifting some restrictions in recent weeks.

    The loosening of restrictions, coupled with photos of crowds over Memorial Day weekend, caused top Trump administration health officials to emphasize the need to keep federal health guidelines in mind.

    Fauci echoed some of those concerns, noting that people should not become "overconfident" amid reopenings because "the effect of spreading is not going to be seen for two, three or maybe even more weeks."

    His comments came just days after the emergencies head at the World Health Organization warned that countries seeing a decline in virus cases could experience an “immediate second peak” if they lifted social-distancing restrictions too early.

    “When we speak about a second wave classically what we often mean is there will be a first wave of the disease by itself, and then it recurs months later. And that may be a reality for many countries in a number of months’ time,” Mike Ryan said, according to Reuters.

    “But we need also to be cognizant of the fact that the disease can jump up at any time," he added. "We cannot make assumptions that just because the disease is on the way down now it is going to keep going down and we are get a number of months to get ready for a second wave. We may get a second peak in this wave.”
     
    #521     May 28, 2020
  2. smallfil

    smallfil


    Conservatives and Republicans are the sane ones expressing their rights to demonstrate. I am just waiting for the extreme liberals to destroy their extreme liberal states. This is just a preview of the BLM and Antifa thugs when they come out to play. Now, the killing of the black guy was unjustified and the FBI are already investigating yet, we have this. What do you think these people are going to do when the Democrat governors finally, open their states and these extreme liberal thugs, find all their jobs gone permanently? Yeah, they will be the law abiding citizens that we expect them to be? Police will be told to stand down too when it happens.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-restraint-violent-chaos-minneapolis-004821405.html
     
    #522     May 28, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The right to peacefully demonstrate does not give you the right to threaten others and carry around weapons while threatening others. Carrying weapons while protesting is against the law in most states including North Carolina.

    The same laws need to be enforced for ANTIFA thugs, looters, and rioters.
     
    #523     May 28, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Agree 100%. Carrying weapons AT ALL in public openly is a bad idea.
     
    #524     May 28, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is a history of carrying weapons openly in public in the U.S. - it is more common in rural areas. If people do it peacefully while they go about their business than many people don't have a problem with it. When people carry openly as part of a protest or to intimidate others then most people have a problem with it.
     
    #525     May 28, 2020
  6. smallfil

    smallfil

    If they are armed and openly threatening someone, that is a different case. When people are allowed to openly, carry their firearms, that is part of people's rights. NRA has members demonstrating yet, not a single person shot or injured. Nobody is waiving their 2nd amendment rights. Actually, they saved lives when churches and their members were attacked. You cannot say the same for the BLM and Antifa thugs, which get a pass most times even if they are burning, looting, destroying property because police are told to stand down.
     
    #526     May 28, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Coronavirus cases spiked after these counties reopened. Now, officials are scaling back
    https://www.latimes.com/california/...nties-reopened-now-officials-are-scaling-back

    Sonoma County wasone of the first regionsin California to begin reopening after months of restrictions aimed at controlling the spread of the coronavirus.

    Public health officials loosened constraints on construction, car sales and landscaping services in early May. A week later, they beganallowing retail stores to reopenfor curbside pickup and delivery. Last week, outdoor dining, summer camps, drive-in religious services and other ceremonies were allowed to resume.

    Then, coronavirus cases began rising again, forcing officials to slow the county’s efforts to reopen.

    Sonoma County has reported 203 new cases of the virus in the last 14 days, doubling its case rate in that time from 20 per 100,000 residents to 41 per 100,000, the county’s health officer, Dr. Sundari Mase, said.

    (More at above url)
     
    #527     May 29, 2020
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Cases will increase. So what. We were told to flatten the curve, we did. End of story. This was never about staying close until no one got the virus, the virus burned out, or there was a vaccine.

    Flatten the curve. End of story. If people are closer together, they're going to spread the virus more. Duh.

    If you increase testing, more people are going to be counted positive. Duh.
     
    #528     May 29, 2020
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    In my opinion, it doesn't matter. As a CCW holder and an avid firearms supporter and one who practices often with them, carrying openly vs. concealed brings with it a different social dynamic which is not necessary and has more negatives than positives.

    Conversely, carrying concealed promotes better behavior. You never know who could be carrying so you are polite and law abiding to everyone.
     
    #529     May 29, 2020
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The state ended their lockdown two weeks ago. As expected the number of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths will increase after ending a lockdown. The key is to keep them at a low enough level so contact tracing and testing will work, and the hospitals will not be overwhelmed. Health officials need to keep an close eye on the effective infection rate (R) as well.

    The real issue is when people totally ignore social distancing guidelines and hold mass events with more than 50 people -- which lead to wide-scale COVID outbreaks. We have seen many of these superspreader events in the news over Memorial Day weekend - a few days from now will have a better idea of their public health impact.

    Wisconsin reports record number of new virus cases, deaths
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...rd-number-of-new-virus-cases-deaths/24458800/

    Wisconsin saw a record number of new coronavirus cases and deaths reported in a single day on Wednesday, two weeks after the state’s Supreme Court struck down its statewide stay-at-home order.

    The state reported 599 new known COVID-19 cases on Wednesday with 22 known deaths, according to Wisconsin’s Department of Health Services, the highest recorded daily rise since the pandemic began there. As of Wednesday, the state had more than 16,460 known cases and 539 known deaths, according to the department.

    (More at above url)
     
    #530     May 29, 2020