The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. What I get is that unless you're prepared to put an armed guard on every person who tests positive but is not symptomatic is a useless debate to have.
     
    #241     May 8, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    4 states that are reopening — Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Colorado — are not conducting enough coronavirus tests to safely do so, Harvard researchers say
    https://www.businessinsider.com/sta...ests-to-reopen-harvard-researchers-say-2020-5
    • Researchers at the Harvard Global Health Institute say the US needs to conduct 900,000 tests a day by May 15 to even think about slowly reopening the economy.
    • The US is currently conducting around 250,000 COVID-19 tests a day, up from 150,000 in mid-April.
    • Four states that are already reopening — Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Colorado — are not conducting the bare minimum number of tests necessary to safely do so, researchers say.
    • "Ultimately, I am deeply worried that four, six, eight weeks down the road we're going to find ourselves in the exact same place we were in in early March, and we will have to shut the economy down again," Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, said in a statement
    (More at above url)
     
    #242     May 8, 2020
  3. Ain't gonna happen in a time frame which is helpful. It's being used as an excuse to continue the lockdown. Time is up. We go well into June there will be nothing left to recover from. We may already be past that tipping point as we really have no idea as to the full extent of damage already done.
     
    #243     May 8, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    no, but a person is more likely to stay home if asymptomatic and tested positive. Guess what, we could even pay their unemployment to stay the fuck home if we know they're positive.
     
    #244     May 8, 2020
  5. We could and should, but will they stay home 100 percent of the quarantine time? If we learned anything from NYC that staying home "most" of the time doesn't work that well considering 2 out of 3 who ended up needing some kind of treatment were staying in most of the time. I'm just saying, waiting for a perfect method of dealing with this just isn't practical. Time to put what we have in place and see what happens. As I laid out in my Citizen Obvious plan :cool: we can make adjustments along the way and go back to lockdown if need be. We're at a point where waiting will arguably cost as many lives as not. Tough decisions, but we must make them. No easy path, no guarantees, mistakes will be made...it's called living life in an imperfect world
     
    #245     May 8, 2020
  6. elderado

    elderado

    Yeah, well, Harvard ain't what it used to be.

    Did the CCP pay for this?
     
    #246     May 8, 2020
  7. An example of how across the board shutdowns aren't working.
    COVID-19 deaths — 339 at nursing and personal care homes — raising Pennsylvania’s death toll to more than 2,100. Nursing homes now account for 65% of the total.

    This is what happens when you lose focus of where the problem areas and high risk people really area.
    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2...nt-for-65-of-covid-19-deaths-in-commonwealth/
     
    #247     May 8, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You do realize that the percentage of nursing and personal care homes that have COVID-19 infection issues is much greater in Sweden where they have no lockdown than in the U.S. Having a lockdown reduces the risk to high risk individuals who reside nursing and personal care homes.
     
    #248     May 8, 2020
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #249     May 8, 2020
  10. Several hundred dead people in that nursing home would be of a different opinion. Apparently Sweden is also doing a poor job of protecting those at high risk. Nursing homes need to be locked down tight. That means no visitors at all and employees stay in the facility, no leaving. Triple their pay, quadruple it, most nursing home caregivers make crap money to begin with. It is one of the most underpaid thankless jobs in America. All food and supplies coming in closely monitored. Put as much money and resources as needed to get the job done. Plenty of money to do that, especially if you're not paying people to stay home who should otherwise be at work.
     
    #250     May 8, 2020