The U.S. is approaching the corner of the COVID-19 pandemic where the discussion has turned to how to re-open America. The guidance given by medical experts, statisticians, and other professionals indicate most states in the U.S. should have a 60 day lockdown before proceeding with re-opening. Most states started locking down in late March which implies they should start re-opening in late May. Of course, the lockdown end dates vary across the country with the infection level, urban density, peak infection timeline and other factors taken into account. Lightly impacted states may be less than 60 days; while others may be more. The entry criteria for re-opening a state is the need for wide-scale testing and contact tracing; most governor's plans clearly outlined this as entry step 1 before proceeding. Proposed re-openings will happen in stages with low-risk activities being first ("social distanced dining") and risky activities (e.g. concerts) being later. All the stages would have entry/exist criteria to avoid large scale COVID-19 breakouts. There are also regional compacts to align strategies of neighboring states that are now coming into place that make sense. I expect there will be quite a bit of news coming out over the upcoming weeks as we move forward. If you have any thoughts or links share them. I would be glad to see North Carolina start opening up at the end of May and I believe this is the plan my state is driving towards.
In my state I expect us to be able to reopen things in a rolled out manner starting sometime in late May but the Governor has put a blanket order until June 10th or some date near that. I think a Mall could open with the requirment that all people entering wear masks and gloves, with hand sanitizer stations at the entry to every store, and limiting crowds inside stores like they do during Xmas at outlets I have seen. Asia mastered this and we are still so ignorant and arrogant to not think we could learn from them. Have a guard at the entrances to the Mall and enforce it. No mask... no gloves..no service. Can have Mall security going around to make sure people keep it on as well. Nothing gestapo like but in the interest of keeping everyone safe. Food courts might be tougher as that will defeat the purpose but open the food courts for carry out and close the eating area. Initially people will only go in small numbers anyway but if you do it for a week or two and it works then the Malls can start generating revenue and jobs. Walmart and grovery stores are doing it, Malls can do it. It might cost a little up front in enforcement but cheaper than staying closed.
This wouldn't be such a delemnia had they shutdown the economy in a more responsible fashion. We keep hearing that it can't be turned on like a light switch. Well, they turned it off like a light switch and therein lies the problem. This knee jerk panic driven decision, all based on faulty models and guesswork now have us in such a crippled state that we may now risk going to slow in some areas, too fast in others. The way this shutdown occurred has been a monumental screw up from day one and judging from what they are suggesting as the criteria for reopening they still have no idea what will work. Using the light switch analogy they should have used the dimmer switch turning it off as well as turning ot back on. Fear, panic, all driven by ignorance and some outright stupidity now has everyone in a mad scramble trying to revive a patient who was perfectly healthy until "treatment" was forced upon him. They really screwed the pooch on this one. All parties involved.
It would be nice if we used some of the data we have to open up in a smart way. We know that up to 50% of those infected show no symptoms...they don't know they are spreaders. We know that the vast majority that die are: 1: Older 2: Have an underlying health issue. So why not open it up in a way that those two groups remain largely separated? Let younger people in good health return to normal routines. Encourage older people and people with health issues to stay at home as much as possible and practice social distancing.
In one European country they are proposing allowing children 11 and younger to return to school. At the same time they are proposing only allowing staff under a certain age with no health issues to work at the schools. (will need to dig up the reference)
States shouldn't reopen before May 1, and most should wait several more weeks, coronavirus model shows https://www.wral.com/us-could-see-a...orse-coronavirus-outbreak-in-winter/19066479/ With a handful of states reopening parts of their economies, a coronavirus model routinely cited by the White House warns that no state should be opening before May 1. South Carolina and Georgia, which are leading the pack to get their economic engines humming again this week, should not open until June 5 and June 19, respectively, according to the model maintained by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington. It was last updated Tuesday. Montana has the best forecast at May 1, while the only other states that should open by May 10, the model says, are Alaska, Hawaii, North Carolina, Vermont and West Virginia. North Carolina is the only of the six states with more than 1,000 cases, as of Wednesday afternoon. About half the country should remain closed until May 25 or later, with Arizona (June 23), South Dakota (June 25), Iowa (June 26), Nebraska (June 30) and North Dakota (July 12) rounding out the bottom of the list. The reopening dates are based on an assumption that states will have other measures in place -- aggressive testing, contact tracing, isolation, limits on the size of gatherings -- to prevent a resurgence of the virus. The IHME model relies on a conservative threshold of one infection per 1 million people, which is the level of infection each state could conceivably manage using containment strategies, such as widespread testing, contact tracing and isolation of new cases, according to an explanation of the model. While the model has been influential, it is one of many, and the IHME has warned against relying too heavily on its projections. "If I were a governor of a state, I would certainly not make a decision based just on our model," IHME Director Dr. Christopher Murray said in a virtual news briefing last week. Another IHME model offered more grim news, as the projected US death toll by August jumped 10%, to 66,000. The change came as states began updating their death tallies, adding residents of nursing homes whom officials are now counting as presumptive positives, Murray said Tuesday. Experts to states: Slow down As the numbers grow, the timeline for relaxing social distancing measures should be slowed down, Murray said. Murray's team was taken aback when states like Georgia, which still has a high number of infections, announced they'd soon ease some restrictions, he said. Gov. Brian Kemp has said his state is prepared to handle an uptick in cases as businesses begin reopening Friday. "If people start to go back to normal social interaction or even progressively go back, the risk of transmission will go up ... and then you go back to the sort of exponential rise that was happening before we put in social distancing," Murray told CNN. "The risk is very great for resurgence from these early openings." That's as the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director gave an ominous forecast of a possible second wave of the virus in the winter. "There's a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through," Robert Redfield told The Washington Post. "We're going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time." The US has so far recorded more than 826,000 infections and at least 45,150 deaths. News emerged Wednesday that the first death in the nation -- previously believed to the February 29 death of a patient in Kirkland, Washington -- actually came February 6 in Santa Clara County, California. California is first state to recommend testing for asymptomatic people To safely move forward, experts have emphasized the country should be able to track, trace and isolate cases. Bolinas, a remote Northern California community, may be one of the first in the world to attempt to test all of its residents for the virus and for the antibodies that may make people immune. Fewer than 2,000 people live in the town, and in the first two days of testing, more than 700 residents showed up. The community-wide free testing is voluntary and part of a new study launched by the University of California, San Francisco, that's attempting to get a more complete understanding of how the virus is spreading. The spread is something health officials all over the state are trying to tackle, now recommending coronavirus testing for asymptomatic people who live or work in high-risk environments such as nursing homes or hospitals. The new guidelines, from the state's health department, were announced in an April 19 memo. They make California the first state in the nation to broaden its guidelines for testing to include those without symptoms, state health officials told CNN. The CDC previously advised testing high-risk patients and health care workers who have symptoms, a California Department of Public Health spokesperson said. California is averaging 14,500 coronavirus tests a day, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Tuesday, calling the number "still inadequate." The state has a long way to go before it can attempt to reopen, he said. The US has so far conducted 4 million tests In two plans for reopening society, economists and public health experts say millions of tests should be conducted each week before restrictions can be lifted. One report estimates at least 3,000,000 and up to 30 million tests should be conducted weekly, while the other says the US should be conducting 20 million tests each day. So far, the country has performed about 4 million tests. While federal officials tout the country's testing capacity, some state leaders -- including Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker -- have reported that while they may have the necessary machines, they lack the materials and staff to run them. A test that was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration may mean Americans can mail in their results. The test would allow patients to collect their samples using an at-home test kit and then mail it into the lab for testing, the FDA said Tuesday. In most states, the test could be available within weeks to patients with a doctor's order, the agency said. The FDA is working with governors and state health officials to ensure the supplies and information regarding the tests are available "so that they can actually unlock that capacity," FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn told "CBS This Morning" on Wednesday. "We believe that based upon that information that we could double the number of tests that are done in a very short period of time," Hahn told the morning show. "That could be done this week." Another company warned of possibly misleading results. Abbott Laboratories, the maker of a rapid coronavirus test that's been widely used across the country and distributed by the federal government, warned its device can produce false negatives if a certain solution is used to move or store the patients' samples. The company told health care workers not to use "viral transport media" solutions on its device and instead said customers should only place swabs with patients' samples directly in the device. States are grappling with how to move forward Despite the questions surrounding tests, many US governors have turned their attention to reopening their economies. Last week, the federal government said in order to launch the first of three phases of reopening, states should wait to see a 14-day decline in cases. South Carolina and Georgia announced this week -- before either hit that milestone -- they'll be easing restrictions. Georgia's governor said workers and business owners need relief, adding that businesses including bowling alleys, body art studios and hair and nail salons can reopen this week. Theaters and restaurants can open their doors next week with social distancing restrictions. No local ordinance can restrict the openings, which will be implemented statewide, Kemp said. Mayors across the state were left astounded, many saying they're unprepared. Atlanta is exploring whether the city has legal grounds for putting different orders in place than what Kemp has announced, Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms told CNN on Tuesday "I have searched my head and my heart on this, and I am at a loss as to what the governor is basing this decision on," she said. In Boston, officials have plenty of work to do to contain the virus, Mayor Marty Walsh told CNN, and it's "pretty scary" to think some states are considering reopening. "What could happen is we'll see another surge in cases. People are already talking about a second surge here in the fall or in the winter. I can't imagine having to go through what we're going through again. We need to be prepared for that," Walsh said. New York City is planning to go forward with its July 4 celebration -- including the fireworks show -- but the details on how the city will safely pull it off haven't been hashed out yet, Mayor Bill de Blasio said. "One way or another, the show will go on," he said. South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster announced retail stores selling furniture, books, music, flowers, clothing and accessories, as well as department stores, sporting goods stores and flea markets, are allowed to open at 20% capacity -- or five people per 1,000 square feet. Beaches will reopen, too, he said. However, schools will remain closed for the rest of the school year, McMaster said in a Wednesday morning news conference. In Tennessee, Gov. Bill Lee announced most businesses across the state will be able to reopen May 1, once the state's stay-at-home order has expired -- but hinted some may be able to open sooner. Other governors -- including New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Newsom -- have announced they have partnered with neighboring states to come up with plans to reopen but have stopped short of giving a timeline just yet. Cuomo has highlighted that ramped-up testing will be key in preparing the state. On Tuesday, he tweeted the state was planning to double its capacity to 40,000 tests per day, saying it was an "ambitious" goal but "critical."
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Wow. Will Obama answer why he funded the Wuhan lab that created the virus? He is directly responsible for this virus.
In 60 days there are still going to be a lot of people in the public that have it, so what is so magical about 60 days out.