The Origins of World War III

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by observer67, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    the white picket fence , 2 1/2 cars and a good paying career does us no good if we are not happy...which is the case for the majority of people...my Cuban gardner , wears the same clothes has a beat up truck and is 60 yrs old busting his ass and is happy as hell at least it seems to me...crazy how we are taught to strive for the good things in life when in fact the good things are here and now all around you...peace
     
    #81     Dec 29, 2009
  2. achilles28

    achilles28

    The Global "Governance" Agenda is doing pretty good, so far.

    And Rome, Greece and England lasted centuries despite their fair share of internal jockeying.
     
    #82     Dec 29, 2009
  3. As long as they don't own your mind, they own nothing...
     
    #83     Dec 29, 2009
  4. achilles28

    achilles28

    Zen-like aphorisms will not save us, my friend.

    :eek:
     
    #84     Dec 29, 2009
  5. #85     Dec 29, 2009
  6. I couldn't have said it any better myself. I turn on Real Player and here's some hippie (who was randomly given a decent voice by the genetics broker) talking about being good at shaking hands. I do NOT want to phukkin listen to this xenoestrogenic bs. Because he conned enough people into listening to his pseudo-intellectual garbage, he has acquired the capital to obtain control of the instrument I use to play the music that I prefer to listen to. It's a complete mindf*ck, I don't want to live here anymore. All the network marketing con artists attempting to obfuscate wealth (before the gov't ultimately does) is getting tiresome.

    Listening to some old George Carlin is helping me not give a f*ck. It's hard because someday I want to raise children in this world and the biggest question I have for parents is when do you take their innocence?
     
    #86     Dec 29, 2009

  7. it is not about ownership.

    it is about power.

    the middle class allows the elite to keep their power, as their role in the society is insulating them from the pockets of dissent.

    this relationship has been pin pointed by many authors in last decades, i.e. orwell, huxley, etc and has became increasingly evident during the last 20 years when the world marched towards globalization.

    free markets doesn't exist today and never existed before. it is all part of their agenda to convince people they can also join the club of the wealthy and powerful countries/people/families etc. this club is not open and free markets is an hoax.

    depopulation is a myth IMHO. we have the world on terror to serve that purpose.
     
    #87     Dec 29, 2009
  8. jorgez

    jorgez

    You do not appear to understand the role of the middle class.

    Whether they were "freeman" in times of slavery or "freeman" in feudal times, their role was always to protect nobility from the underclass and they feared losing their "privileges" more than they feared right from wrong.
    As they grew, they formed a very useful tax base which effectively discounted their cost but not their value and since they were the servile class they were allowed to grow in numbers.
    They added consumption to their portfolio and in return they were rewarded with credit, unavailable to the unruly lower classes.

    Globalization will add a billion or two to this tax paying consumer based middle class and nobody in their right mind will wantonly destroy any part of the middle class.

    Their destruction has come as an error from the greedy extension of credit down through the ranks, not through any intentional desire ... why would you bite the hand that helps feed you.

    However the lower class in US is another story and there are simply to many of them as the country move into the 21st century.
     
    #88     Dec 29, 2009
  9. I agree with you that the markets aren't free... they aren't as long as they don't regulate themselves...

    However I am sorry but everyone can join this losers club... Open a 1$ trading account and start to build your "wealth". And in the Wild West none knocks on the door of the bar before entering... that's why everyone sits facing the door...
    :D
     
    #89     Dec 29, 2009
  10. achilles28

    achilles28

    Ownership is power. And power is ownership.

    The right to lawfully seize present and future labor of citizens is involuntary servitiude. Or neo-feudalism. Ownership over a persons TIME = slavery.

    We're actually in agreement on quite a bit, just the semantics are different.

    The middle class always existed. It just got bigger over time. To claim it was an invention by the Elite to "control" the underclass is silly.

    The industrial revolution and all the attendant wealth created from that, was no more the result of a conspiracy then Edison's invention of the light bulb. Free markets really do create wealth. The side effect of that is upward mobility for the poor into a Middle Class.

    National economies were forced to industrialize via prisoners dilemma (innovate or get conquered), and followed suit. Hence, the emergent middle class.

    Lots of historical societies had a very small ruling and middle class with a broad underclass, and survived centuries. One king can't rule a million slaves without middle managers.

    I agree markets have never been truly free. But lets use the relevant definition of the term. Meaning contemporary markets. A ton of private wealth and innovation was created despite not being truly free.

    And the environmental scaremongering for depopulation is bullshit. I agree. But our Global Leaders are pushing it anyway. Their target is a half a billion people. I'm sure you're aware of the Georgia Guidestones. We're the disease, friend. They own us and hold all the cards. We're a threat to their existence. Hence, depopulation.
     
    #90     Dec 29, 2009