"The only way to trade with Fibonaccis" journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 1a2b3cppp, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. 12/19:

    SPY: $1,342.00
    Hedge: $130.00

    Net for this trade:

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    $1,472.00


    ^ kenwx23 I will answer your questions a bit later. I have to go run off to something now.
     
    #551     Dec 19, 2011
  2. gap up outta nowhere!

    12/20:

    SPY: $4,254.00
    Hedge: -$1,382.00

    Net for this trade:

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    $2,872.00
     
    #552     Dec 20, 2011
  3. 12/21:

    SPY: $4,446.00
    Hedge: -$1,490.00

    Net for this trade:

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    $2,956.00
     
    #553     Dec 21, 2011
  4. are you using futures to hedge?
     
    #554     Dec 22, 2011
  5. No, hedging with SH (inverse S&P 500 ETF).
     
    #555     Dec 22, 2011
  6. Both kinda. Like I start out with a structured exit plan but depending on what happens I may adjust it as I go.

    Hedging allows holding more SPY which pays more dividends (if the position is still open when dividends are paid).

    I mean yeah technically instead of buying x amount of shares of SH I could just sell an equivalent amount of SPY and the current net position at that particular time would be the same, but I prefer to do it this way because psychologically it's easier for me to keep track of everything treating it as two separate positions. And this potentially reduces some wash sales.
     
    #556     Dec 22, 2011
  7. 12/22:

    SPY: $5,326.00
    Hedge: -$1,970.00

    Net for this trade:

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    $3,356.00
     
    #557     Dec 22, 2011
  8. I guess I am confused then. If you are going long spy and short it's inverse with the same position sizes, wouldn't the returns on trade always be zero? I understand how hedging works, just not in this case
     
    #558     Dec 22, 2011
  9. Only if you opened and closed equivalent positions at the same time.
     
    #559     Dec 22, 2011
  10. 12/23:

    SPY: $6,222.00
    Hedge: -$2,354.00

    Net for this trade:

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    $3,868.00
     
    #560     Dec 23, 2011