"The only way to trade with Fibonaccis" journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by 1a2b3cppp, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. The dividend was paid yesterday and my estimate was off by 29 cents, so the actual numbers are:

    SPY: $31,115.00 (closed)
    hedge: -$3,281 (closed)

    $27,834.00 (SPY gain + hedge loss)
    $1,223.60 (realized)
    $2,931.69 (realized)
    $1,129.72 (dividend)
    $3,562.22 (dividend)
    $5,221.55 (realized)
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    $41,902.78 (total for trade)
     
    #491     Nov 1, 2011
  2. Equity markets have an upward bias over time. The strategy he's using is basically to take a long position and resolve not to close it unless / until it's profitable, and add to the position if it moves down.

    This strategy will generally work, with some caveats.

    1. There's no telling how long it will take until your trade is in the money. It can be a long wait sometimes.

    2. Your risk:reward ratio might be really skewed, as you can experience drawdowns that are much larger than any profit that you allow to develop.

    3. Sometimes you'll enter a position at the absolute top and the trade will be a loser for decades (e.g., Nikkei 1989, NASDAQ 1999). If all your capital is tied up in this trade, and you keep adding to it, you are basically sunk as it may not produce a profit in your lifetime.

    This is an approach for traders with extreme patience and no immediate need to use their capital. The risks are perhaps higher than the OP realizes but it is not the riskiest strategy out there.
     
    #492     Nov 1, 2011
  3. Forgot one other point:

    4. If you enter the trade initially with only a small portion of your capital, keeping some in reserves to add on dips, you will experience only a very small win if the trade moves in your favor quickly.
     
    #493     Nov 1, 2011
  4. Well, since fibonacci numbers are MAGIC and PREDICT PRICE MOVEMENT, I wouldn't dare enter until price retraces to one of these magic seashell points :D So in this case, the next SPY fib retracement appears to be around 121 (actually just missed it the other day).

    Haha.

    In all seriousness, I'm experimenting with some stuff to see if I can come up with a different entry method that doesn't necessarily require a pullback.

    Thanks :)
     
    #494     Nov 3, 2011
  5. I'm more comfortable doing this long term now which is why I stopped daytrading awhile back. Plus, it takes less effort and I don't have to be glued to the screen all day.
     
    #495     Nov 3, 2011
  6. I'll shoot you a PM in a bit.
     
    #496     Nov 3, 2011
  7. I agree with this.
     
    #497     Nov 3, 2011
  8. Next fib buy would be here. Not sure if I'm going to play it this way or not, but here it is. It's $121.06. We just missed it on that one day. Do you see it? I'm sure some people will ask "why didn't you just buy it there? That was close enough." The answer is because there was no way of knowing if price would have continued down to the actual buy level.

    I know, fibonaccis are magic and they should have used their magic seashell powers to pull the price down there. I don't know what happened, either! :confused:

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    Of course if this current uptrend continues and then pulls back a bit we may have to redraw the magic fib lines.
     
    #498     Nov 7, 2011
  9. Just over $2 away from rentry.
     
    #499     Nov 9, 2011
  10. $3.31 above reentry.
     
    #500     Nov 11, 2011