The Obama Chronicles Vol 3 - Obama insults Nancy Reagan with tasteless joke

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. Trump invited Kanye who is mentally fucktarded.
     
    #51     Dec 23, 2019
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    Pretty sure this is not accurate.
     
    #52     Dec 23, 2019
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  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Please regale us with why is brought up John Dingell at all at that exact moment?

    Anyone?
     
    #53     Dec 23, 2019
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    Where are you going for information? This is tripe. Your OK with Trump siding with the killer of Jamal Khashoggi of course.
     
    #54     Dec 23, 2019
  5. wildchild

    wildchild

    Was Jamal Khashoggi a US citizen?
     
    #55     Dec 23, 2019
  6. wildchild

    wildchild

    What information are you questioning? Its all well documented.
     
    #56     Dec 23, 2019
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  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    I'm still thinking there must be more to your question than what it seems. But I am at a loss to figure out what it may be. If you've murdered someone, cut them up with a bone saw, and put them in a suitcase, what would be the relevance of their citizenship?
     
    #57     Dec 25, 2019
  8. wildchild

    wildchild

    First off, lets end the little charade that there are not countries murdering journalists. It happens all the time and the US does a lot of business with countries that do so.

    Second of all, Obama himself has murdered US citizens with no due process whatsoever.

    Third, I do not buy the media's representation of what happened in this case. They have gone completely batshit crazy since Trump became President and they have lied repeatedly about numerous events.

    Fourth, even if the media told the truth on the murder, which is highly unlikely, I don't really care what Saudi Arabia did to a Saudi citizen.

    The only reason anyone cared about the story in the first place is because the left and media thought they could negatively impact Trump's Middle East policies and goals and the fact that the guy was 'journalist'. Self important 'journalists' were doing nothing more than protecting their own profession.

    This was the biggest non-story of 2018. The fact that anyone is still bringing this up at the end of 2019 is astounding.
     
    #58     Dec 25, 2019
  9. TRS

    TRS


    Khashogi’s murder was a ridiculous move by MBS that just bought heat on him and the kingdom when it desperately wanted access to Western cash/financial markets and help turn a critical eye onto Yemen and the Houthi conflict. A game in which the US and Britain both have skin.
    Khashogi’s death has given the west leverage on some human rights issues and MBS has fast tracked some further Western style influences into society.
    The MDL Beast Festival just completed was more PR window dressing.
    So, even though the death of this journalist seems insignificant to some, it has helped the next generation, particularly the female gender obtain more freedoms and helped provide a platform into the future.
    This is why extreme right conservative views are more aligned to that of the MBS’s and other zealots of this World. I don’t leave the extreme left out of this zealotry.
    Capitalism at its best, is a tool for good in this World. It is up to those that have the greatest access to this tool to show some responsibility with its use. You listening Donald J Trump?
     
    #59     Dec 25, 2019
  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    Ah, but it is not the medias representation. It's the CIA's that the media parrots. So you don't buy the CIA's, and the United Nation's findings. How strange that is!

    Let me add that neither you nor I are aware of what process was used by the Obama administration when they went after certain U.S. citizens, possibly dual citizens or those who had renounced their citizenship. We should have been made aware of that process. I am opposed to any nation killing any non-war combatant, without due process. Obama's use of drones disturbs me, but I admit I am not aware of the process used to determine targets. I might be somewhat less disturbed if I was better informed on that issue.

    Regardless, I am astounded at your illogical suggestion that because someone in the past might have got away with some horrible crime, or because the world is rife with injustices, we would somehow now be justified in over looking yet another horrible crime; a crime for which nearly all details are known with great certainty due to the Turks having bugged the Saudi Consulate. They have provided a recording of the entire event. The United nations has also investigated and confirmed both what the U.S. CIA and the Turkish government has concluded regarding the Khashoggi killing. There can be no question regarding the guilty party in this instance.

    There are ways to deal with this via the international courts that would make MBS a wanted criminal and prevent his traveling to the United States or the EU. The Trump administration should be pursuing that avenue of response, but instead they are partnering with the Saudi regime, a thoroughly authoritarian, corrupt regime. There are other measures, and should be, taken as well.
     
    #60     Dec 28, 2019
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