The Night Effect

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Rickshaw Man, Oct 24, 2022.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight


    This is just Rickshaw's underhanded way of promoting his "buy the index futures at cash close, sell at open" propaganda. It works great in a positive uptrending market, but terrible in a downtrending market, like all of 2022. Don't believe the hype.
     
    #11     Oct 24, 2022
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  2. DaveV

    DaveV

    i looked at their affiliated website nightetfs.com and they have 3 ETFs - NSPY, NIWM and NSPl. Then I looked at each of the ETF's underlying component. For all 3 ETFs all they have are a single futures contract, and handful of cash equivalents.
     
    #12     Oct 24, 2022
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  3. It worked great at some point? Color me surprised.
     
    #13     Oct 24, 2022
  4. Specterx

    Specterx

    On top of that you are (in the US) paying short-term CG rates on your winnings. Doesn't really seem worthwhile.
     
    #14     Oct 24, 2022
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  5. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    They say they also use swaps, but who is on the other side of those swaps then ? They also had to do transaction to hedge their swaps. So the only viable tradable option to replicate the night effect is trading the futures which is also the most cost effective solution. And the market on close volume for futures is very limited except S&P Futures. But here (on SP500 Futures) you also cannot trade more than 40000 contracts or ca. $8 billion in value (for this overnight effect). Funny is also that they could not explain it better why the overnight anomaly exists.? I would expect more and better explanations here.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2022
    #15     Oct 25, 2022
  6. Nobert

    Nobert

    Em epic ,ETF's' made out of futures.

    Yup.
     
    #16     Oct 25, 2022
  7. On any week without a holiday normal trading hours are only 19.34% of the week. Stock investors are simply checking infrequently to see what the value of their assets are. The people working hard to propel the growth in asset values work on a much wider range of hours. So it would be weird if half or more of the growth in asset values happened during 19.34% of the week. It's interesting how whatever domain people are working in they tend to think the universe should revolve around their own domain.
     
    #17     Oct 25, 2022
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  8. Use stock index futures, micro or mini.
     
    #18     Oct 25, 2022
  9. It's the cheapest most cost-effective way to lift the markets. Gap up on open equals free markup for exchange floor specialists. Can you imagine the amount of capital required to open each day exactly where it left off. The financial media always points to the stock indexes. The indexes are the benchmarks.
     
    #19     Oct 25, 2022
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  10. Look at the magic futures go....up up up we go.
     
    #20     Oct 26, 2022