The Next Meltdown: Credit-Card Blowup Ahead

Discussion in 'Economics' started by SouthAmerica, Oct 12, 2008.

  1. depends on your definition of "fiasco".

    The bubble, which was a record RE bubble BTW, WAS created by:

    1) artificial rates

    2) loose lending, encouraged by the Federal Gov.

    this became a global nightmare due to the ridiculous risk taken on via derivatives. the underlying problem however, is the real estate bubble bursting, along with all the other bubbles at the same time, also created by loose money (equities and commodities).

    derivatives trading per se, is not a bad thing. it serves a valuable purpose in decreasing risk actually, but completely unregulated can obviously be abused.
     
    #31     Oct 15, 2008
  2. "per se" being the operative word(s).

    The amount involved in the derivative trading dwarfed the underlying mortgages.

    The nightmare was the difference between the small amount of mortgages on real property and the astronomical amount of derivative paper.
     
    #32     Oct 15, 2008
  3. You are saying that an amount of derivatives outstanding estimated to be worth 10 times the value of the entire Earth is too much?

    yep, totally ridiculous (550 trillion est.). good this happened now however as it would have just continued to get more out of hand.
     
    #33     Oct 15, 2008
  4. my fear is that the next administration will go over board on regulation however. if they lump the retail futures and options crowd in with the swaps that caused the probs, I am out of biz! would have to go overseas, along with billions of other dollars.
     
    #34     Oct 15, 2008
  5. lol

    10 times is a joke, right?
     
    #35     Oct 15, 2008
  6. Oh, right, I forgot to mention swaps.

    billions of other dollars... on welfare now with the bailout... maybe sooner would have been better.
     
    #36     Oct 15, 2008
  7. Alot of folks desperate to pay the mortgage after they lose their jobs will get cash advances from credit cards. Domino...
     
    #37     Oct 15, 2008
  8. the mortgages are a bait and switch
     
    #38     Oct 15, 2008
  9. SOUTHAMERICA is from Colombia - too much coke
     
    #39     Oct 15, 2008
  10. According to Marketwatch, this is a fact. I guess the value of the earth is 55 trillion? Probably just RE and company values. I have no idea how they arrived at this figure.
     
    #40     Oct 15, 2008