The New South America Union.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by SouthAmerica, May 24, 2008.

  1. Thx - I tried it again and it worked...

    Interesting article. Looks like Brazil is actually at the center of this.
     
    #71     Jun 1, 2008
  2. Bancoii

    Bancoii

    I think is quite improbable, in the short or medium term, a South American Union. For example, it is needed in Central America, since the European Union wants to speak only with only one interlocutor, not with five countries. And the differences among such little countries are still enourmeous.

    And Brazil is the only country which speaks portuguese, a think that will not help.

    Salvador Trinxet
    President
    Banco Internacional de Inversiones
    www.bancoii.com
     
    #72     Jun 1, 2008
  3. Bancoii

    Bancoii

    I think will be a good thing, but very difficult to achieve in the middle term. Maybe in the case of Asia will be more easy.

    Salvador Trinxet
    President & Ceo
    Banco Internacional de Inversiones
    www.bancoii.com
     
    #73     Jun 1, 2008
  4. This is really a very good point. European countries had, for the most part, a common socialist, big government heritage and a generally "Francophile" way of looking at things. South America does not seem to share a common homogenous heritage. For example, you have serveral countries going a fairly economically conservative route and then you have Chavez taking things backwards about fifty years. And I won't name names, but you also have a few countries that are known for thinking they are the best: from what I have heard they will have trouble working well with anyone else...
     
    #74     Jun 1, 2008
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    Regarding the independence of Brazil.


    Today, June 13, 2008 is the date to commemorate the birth date of "The Greatest Man in Brazilian History - Jose Bonifacio de Andrada e Silva" – (The Patriarch of Brazilian Independence).

    Jose Bonifacio born on June 13, 1763 and he died on April 6, 1838.

    My ancestor is the person responsible for uniting Brazil at the time of Brazilian independence, and he kept Brazil from splitting itself into 5 or 6 independent countries as the countries that made the Spanish Empire did in South America.

    The new generation of Andrada Family descendents united we will fight to keep Brazil independent as our ancestors did in the past.

    Our family still is very influential in Brazil and you can bet on that.

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    #75     Jun 13, 2008
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    July 15, 2008

    SouthAmerica: Brazilians are overreacting to the dying perception of US military power around the world.

    Here is my response to that article.

    Anyway military over spending killed the last two world superpowers – the British Empire and the Soviet Empire.


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    In reality today there is a lot less reason to Panic regarding the United States show of power than a few years ago.

    There are many trends that are at work today that will take care of any possible US threat to South America.

    By the time the US is done in Afghanistan and in Iraq, and even possibly in Iran the US Army is going to look like the Soviet Army after they lost their war in Afghanistan in the late 1980’s and from that point on the US Army probably will look like the Russian Army after the Soviet Empire collapse.

    Please don’t forget that many foreign countries are getting tired of supporting US government constant deficit spending to finance its adventures around the world and these people are aware that the piles of US dollars they have been accumulating are declining in value by the second in world markets.

    The other major trend is the Baby Boom generation that is finally here and it will cost the United States every dime that they can muster; almost overnight the US population aged over 65-years old is ballooning from the current 40 million people to about 75 million people and every year that goes by in the coming years the US economy has to carry the extra cost of another wave of 3 million retirees on its back.

    Never mind the current state of the US economy that still running on fumes and on foreign money with collapsing major institutions, and even run in major banks have started at this point. It is not a pretty picture of a collapsing and imploding old Empire.

    In a nutshell: who is going to finance the US new adventures in South America?

    The Chinese?

    I don’t think so.

    In essence the South Americans are afraid of a ghost.


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    You can read the article at:

    Brazzil magazine July 15, 2008

    Is the US Navy After Brazil’s Oil? Some Brazilians Think So.
    http://www.brazzil.com/articles/194...ls-oil-some-brazilians-think-so.html#comments

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    #76     Jul 15, 2008
  7. Imo this is somewhat of a moot point.

    The reason that I say that is that it appears that some of the nastiest rogue countries on planet earth have been partially tamed by the promise of riches and wealth that capitalism brings. The prime example of this is N Korea which is now laying down its arms and my guess is soon to embrace a new China-modeled capitalism. They finally realized that they're being idiots by trying to model themselves after the old "Third World Dictator" model when they could in 20 years be one of the region's Asian Tigers.

    Other examples (but not necessarily of "rogue" countries of course) are surfacing or have surfaced elsewhere on the globe: inS American you have Peru, Chili, Argentina and Columbia all experimenting with balls-to-the-wall capitalism. If they have any measure of success, then other countries in the region will be following right behind. And we are seeing this in the Middle East as well - Dubai is an example.

    So I agree that no one is interested in "financing" us, but I'm not sure the issue has to be pushed by the int'l community because the need to for the US global elite, i.e. Bush and Cronies, to play Global Cowboy and force democracy on rogue nations is becoming daily less compelling...
     
    #77     Jul 15, 2008