The New South America Union.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by SouthAmerica, May 24, 2008.

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    May 24, 2008

    SouthAmerica: In my opinion, this is a very bad idea from the Brazilian perspective.

    I wonder who is behind this new agenda?

    The only way this plan makes sense to me it is if Brazil is going to be the permanent leader of this new union (SAU).


    Brazil: "South America Union Born"
    Published: May 24, 2008

    A new South American Union was created as leaders of the continent’s 12 independent nations signed a treaty creating the organization and set out to devise a continental parliament.

    Some view the union, known as Unasur, as the region’s version of the European Union. Brazil, which organized the meeting in Brasília, where the union was born, wants it to help coordinate defense affairs across South America. But the nations were not able to reach a consensus on how to do that.
  2. Countries unite at market peaks and divide at market bottoms. If the price of crude oil ever begins to trend lower, those countries will never reach a consensus on anything. Maybe it would be best if Guyana were the permanent leader instead of Brazil.
  3. I don't see how this could happen. You have countries that are economically conservative and growing themselves, albeit in some cases in fits and starts, like Brazil, Chili, Peru, Argentina and then you have other countries like Venezuela that are headed back to the dark ages and a new Cuba and then you have ones in between like Columbia. So how are you ever going to get all these to agree economically? What I like is that the better run countries like Chili and Brazil might be able to influence the more socialist countries and apply public pressure?
  4. toc


    Any sort of union in third or second world does not work efficiently.
  5. Excellent Commentary All


    My experience in so called second or third world countries is that
    the times in office are not adequate in order to carry out longer term objectives....and secondly the control of tax money is why offices are wanted....

    More often than revenues are the biggest business whereby when one wins an office, it is much like winning the lotto....

    Corruption is so hard and deep that even employees of utility companies help their own customers to steal electricity from their own companies because their pay is more than three fold what the company pays them....

    Perhaps one of every 15 funded projects are ever completed....and commissions of even 20% are passed in public companies that are paper and have not even been in existance for a year....and do not have any prior experience in the contract work given....

    And the sure cure for inflation is for government officials to simply raise their own pay....

    And no ....I am not joking....

    This is today....

    However these types of events fall far far short of the corruption in the US political offices....particularly in terms of economic size and legal largesse to the degree that there is no remedy....


    Thus since so called organization is impossible for any second or third world can pass off talk of any grander organization as a rather snide joke reserved for coctail hour....
  6. Very true. I know in Mexico that when one party loses many, many government positions change hands - it's a complete change of guard leaving little continuity...
  7. many of those countries are so fucked up politically that it will never happen
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    May 25, 2008

    SouthAmerica: Reply to ShoeshineBoy

    In the next few days I will get in contact with a number of people in Brazil including my cousins who are involved in politics to find out what is going on.

    I knew that they had been talking about that subject for a couple of years, but I did not expect that they would try to put it into practice that is why I never paid much attention to that subject.

    The only country that should merge with Brazil it is Uruguay, because Uruguay used to be part of Brazil until Uruguay became independent from Brazil in 1828.

    I would not mind if Brazil took Uruguay back.

    I would not mind if the other Spanish countries of South America formed a new union – since all these countries used to belong to the Spanish Empire. It would not bother me if Hugo Chavez became the leader of that new group of countries – the new Simon Bolivar.

  9. sa,

    What a truely silly comment to make.

    #10     May 25, 2008